MarkLB Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Hi all. I have a pair of BNs in my com tank that have spawned in a cave. There is a clump off eggs that keeps turning up outside the cave and he looks after the three or four eggs that are stuck on the inside of the cave. If I put the clump back in the cave it just ends up outside it again, whether he pushes it out accidentally or not I can't be sure. I have a hospital tank. Should I put the clump of eggs in there? Do they need Dad at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Cheers Mystic. I like the idea of something over the cave entrance. Its always the simplest remedies that are the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/artifi ... 13000.html A little step-by-step on how to set up and artificially raise BN eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keri Anne Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Or you could make an egg tumbler... instructions in the DIY section. I had a simular problem... turns out one of the loaches was getting into the cave so Dad had kicked out most of the eggs.. I lost just over 1/2 my eggs but then I *saved* almost half. Now have close to 40 babies 34 days free swimming and eating like crazy. Some of them are already 2 1/2 cm long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 hay blue just read the thread on artificial raising GBA eggs. what was the survival rate on that lot? how many made it pass the 3cm mark. [cool air stone by the way never seen a wooden one before] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 fishboi - The whole tank died off so I lost all of them aside from 3 that I moved to another tank. Out of those 3 they're all alive, tho! The wooden ones are old-school and are a pain as they naturally float - specially when air is going through them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted July 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Hi. So I put up a barrier and that seemed to work....for a day. When I got home last night the egg cluster was outside of the cave again. I scooped 'em up and put them in a floating fry trap....when I looked at them 10 minutes later I saw three wrigglers. I put the cluster in the hospital tank and this morning all eggs had hatched & I have 21 wrigglers. I have an air filter and an airstone in there for plenty of oxygen and circulation so we'll see what happens. Thanks for the advice. I'll let you know if any survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Congrats bud. One question though. Why did you move it to another tank? No real reason to do this as they're protected in the floating trap but hey, what's done is done. Good save and great timing. Dad may have some wrigglers in there with him so keep an eye out in about 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted July 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Congrats bud. One question though. Why did you move it to another tank? :oops: The 'fry trap' was a DIY & I was worried that the fry would fall through into the tank and be somethings dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Makes total sense, sweet as. I found that the wrigglers are actually so small that some fish can suck them through the narrow gaps on the fry traps anyways. Worst part is even if they don't get sucked all the way through the damage caused resulted in death anyways. I soon moved my wrigglers into the breeding nets rather than the fry traps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted July 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Hi. So I put up a barrier and that seemed to work....for a day. . The idea of a barrier would have worked...if I'd done a better job of it. :oops: I have 20 wrigglers in the hospital tank and Dad is looking after 2 in the Comm tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Excellent job! You should have a good survival rate from them. Keep in mind that babies under 2cm don't handle water changes well, so keep the water changes under 20% and avoid transferring them to a new tank unless you have to. It's a good thing that dad still has a few to care for as he'll learn better paternal skills for the next batch. How many females do you have? You could have your next clutch of eggs in 1 week if you have multiple females or 3 if your original laying female is well fed. Oh, and try and get food to settle near the mouth of the males cave so he can jump out for a quick meal and not leave the fry unattended for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 How many females do you have? Oh, and try and get food to settle near the mouth of the males cave so he can jump out for a quick meal and not leave the fry unattended for too long. Theres just the one female , and only one male. Luckily the cave is in the perfect position. The current from the filter lets some food flow directly into the cave so he doesn't even need to leave home Thanks for the advice re: water changes etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 No worries, glad to help. BNs seem to be the perfect introduction catfish for people as they do a good job of cleaning tanks and breed very easily. I soon moved from them to Golden Bristelnoses and on to bigger and better fish. I'm currently working on breeding 4 different types of catfish and 3 types of cories less than a year after my first BN spawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 So far ,so good. All the babies have survived this far. Their yolk sacks are mostly gone. Its so cool...little mini-me BNs. They congregate in the corner right next to the airstone. Is this normal or is it a sign that I need more airflow? I have put in a bit of lettuce which has been dipped in boiling water and a spirulina disc, which I will replace daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 alright go mark, all sound good to me. its pretty normal for them to all be in the corner. :bounce: :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted July 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 :bounce: Hi all. Of the 20 eggs I started with I have 16 fry. 4 of the wrigglers didn't absorb the egg sac and died. I guess its normal to lose a couple. ?? Dad BN had three fry in his cave but he stopped looking after them last night. This morning there were none in the cave. Wish them luck...I reckon the Tiger Barbs will get 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted July 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Thats great Mark, a shame that the Tiger Barbs will get them! Its all good....I found two fry in the comm' tank yesterday and I've put them in with the others in the Hosp' tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted July 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 How many females do you have? You could have your next clutch of eggs in 1 week if you have multiple females or 3 if your original laying female is well fed. . :bounce: So on the money Blue&Kim.....another clutch of eggs was layed overnight....three weeks after the first.....pretty much to the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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