lduncan Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Aluminium sulfate, bacterial activity ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Aluminium sulfate, bacterial activity ... can you expand please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Aluminium Sulfate: Aluminum Sulfate is used in water purification and as a mordant in dyeing and printing textiles. In water purification, it causes impurities to coagulate which are removed as the particulate settles to the bottom of the container or more easily filtered. Increased bacterial activity, from dosing special "foods" (read nitrogen sources and trace metals), leads to increased breakdown of those organic molecules which cause yellowing. Then there's the carbon which you're also meant to use with zeovit, removing yellowing compounds. Layton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 do you use zeovit Layton and/or what do you think of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I have done in the past, for a short period of time. I saw changes in corals which made me think twice about what it was doing, that put me off. My position on it is that yes it works. BUT I don't like HOW it works. I wouldn't use it again. As far as methodologies go, it doesn't rate highly in my books. Layton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I have done in the past, for a short period of time. Layton 2 weeks wasn't it? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 yip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I see. A real wealth of experience with the product indeed. No wonder you are able to give such knowledge & insights into it's use, disadvantages, and of course, HOW it works. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 It was long enough for me to see how it was going about what it did. Plus there are all those observations of others which all point to the general process behind what it does to achieve the results it does. Layton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 2 weeks wasn't it? yip hey at least he admits it that it was only 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Call me a fast learner Didn't take long for me to figure out what it was doing to achieve the results it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Call me a fast learner Didn't take long for me to figure out what it was doing to achieve the results it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I should also add, I didn't want what it was doing to happen in my tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 It was long enough for me to see how it was going about what it did.Layton So you were able to see how it went about what it did, by looking at your tank, right? Plus there are all those observations of others which all point to the general process behind what it does to achieve the results it does.Layton Yes I'll agree with that. I have certainly read and heard the observations of a lot of "others", extremely happy with their results. Call me a fast learner . Well, not my observation of you Layton. I'm thinking how many pages of argument it took me to run you through that Co2 / pH thing, even though it was a relatively simple concept. Perhaps it depends who's telling you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Wasp, best you not try to start yet another pointless arguement with Layton!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Well, not my observation of you Layton. I'm thinking how many pages of argument it took me to run you through that Co2 / pH thing, even though it was a relatively simple concept. Perhaps it depends who's telling you? Such a simple concept that you could not explain to me. You had no idea of the details of what you were talking about. You were just stating something which someone else had told you, with no understanding of why it's that way. What if that person had been wrong? If it had been so simple, you could have explained it to me from the get go, but you couldn't, and probably still can't. Layton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 So you were able to see how it went about what it did, by looking at your tank, right? In general terms yes. Really it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it bleaches corals, and then attempts to substitute for the lack of zooxanthellae by bacterial and chemical feeding. Now with the zeoguide, and all the posts on the zeovit forum, it's pretty transparent that that is what it's doing. The mechanisms behind how it achieves the bleaching and feeding is up for debate. As you know, I have my own ideas on how it does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Well I see your advice Warren but just cannot let this one go Such a simple concept that you could not explain to me. You had no idea of the details of what you were talking about. Layton You seem to have forgotten Layton. I had my facts RIGHT. You had your facts WRONG. But you still trying to tell me that it was ME who did not understand!!! :lol: Pretty rich coming from you. Funny even! . What about that chemical formula you tried to write? That showed how much YOU understood In fact I am confident that you would be the only person on this board who would be entirely unable to see what actually happened, and continue to talk such piffle . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Ok since you two seem so juvenile and can't control yourselves, you've just ruined yet another good thread. Topic is now locked to stop more foolish/childish behaviour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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