Naso Tangs

[trinity]

I am looking at adding a Naso Tang to my current tank.

I am interested in some feed back from either previous owners/ current owners of this paticular fish.

I know they can get rather big, I have considered this and once it gets that size the big tank will be up and running.

I currently have a yellow sailfin tang in the tank and there may be a bit of socialising to do with them both.

Any help much appreciated

Eve

[chimera]

well the one bonus is tangs are compatible with most other fish. however they do get LARGE, according to the following site almost half a metre...

http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/profiles/343.htm

[rossco]

You've been to see Ardie's shop again!!!! (and taken a fancy to something, again)

[trinity]

You've been to see Ardie's shop again!!!! (and taken a fancy to something, again)

yip

He has 2 nice little nasos in there, he usually only gets the real big ones so hence these caught my eye

[trinity]

Thanks for link Chimera, another website to add to my favourites

As soon as I got home tonight i went searching my usual sites like this one

http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/tangs/nasotang/

[rossco]

Yeah, I had a flying visit in the weekend. They seemed pretty cool fish. Their colours in photos dont do them justice.

[trinity]

I was wondering who left the speed marks on the carpet in the fishroom

On a serious note: they probly look a bit better now, it took 2 days for these to arrive via the courier. I'm amazed they survived, they are looking very healthy and alert now.

[Drifty]

just came back from fiji, the naso tangs were only a little bigger than the large sailfins but not much

[skippy]

You must have been looking in the nursery :lol: I was there diving last year and saw some jumbo versions. Saw a clown trigger that would have been 50cm - amazing.

If you want reef envy - go dive there 8)

[JoeBlog]

I visited another LFS in the States last week (post pictures later) and they had sailfin and naso tangs that were WELL over 12"! Given that, you must be planning one hell of a tank upgrade.

[Kermit]

I agree when i was in fiji the Naso tangs were one of the bigest tangs swimming around on the reef's, your web site say's 5-7" more like 18-24" maybe more that and the clown tangs.

O to be there again :roll:

[reef]

whilst tangs get big they only grow to the size of your tank, naso gets to 46cm and even sailfin tangs to 40cm. clown triggers 50sm, niger trigger 50cm.

I doubt they will get anywhere near this size in a four foot tang.

[Kermit]

to a degree yes, but my main reason was that the web site say's 5-7" when 46cm is 18" there's 11" missing on that fish.

[trinity]

to a degree yes, but my main reason was that the web site say's 5-7" when 46cm is 18" there's 11" missing on that fish.

The sizes on the Marinecentre website is the size you can buy not the size they can eventually get.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/naso.htm

didnt realise there were that many different species of naso

and wow the size of them in the wild 36" and more.

Different story though for the ones that can be kept in captivity :lol:

[JoeBlog]

whilst tangs get big they only grow to the size of your tank, naso gets to 46cm and even sailfin tangs to 40cm. clown triggers 50sm, niger trigger 50cm.

I doubt they will get anywhere near this size in a four foot tang.

People say this all the time, i.e. "Fish only grow to the size of their tank." Is it really true??? If you put a small yellow tang in a 6 inch square tank would it only grow to a couple inches??? I don't know, but some anecdotal evidence from what I've seen in some fish shops during my trip argues against this rational. I understand that it is inhumane for the fish, but that isn't the argument.

A couple of these very large fish that I was previously referring to from the Terra Haute shop were initially raised in small customers' tanks (4x2) and had to be given to this shop since they "out grew the tank". These fish are HUGE; bigger than any I’ve ever seen.

Also, there were a couple sharks in a LFS tank in Indianapolis as well as Milwaukee that have completely out grown their tanks to the point of it being quite sad. The last time I saw the one in Indy it had to lay curved since the tank was too short (approximately 5 foot square and 3+ foot tall).

By your rational, these observations would never happen.

[trinity]

Hey everyone

We seem to be drifting into who is right and who is wrong about the size the fish can get! :evil:

[KP]

Whats because the other thread has been locked!!

Need to start more fun here!!

[trinity]

[Kermit]

Sorry Trinity i thought you were using the site as a reference to size, the site should maybe think about adding the full adult size to aid people.

Joeblog wrote:

People say this all the time, i.e. "Fish only grow to the size of their tank." Is it really true???

I agree it surely must be only to a certain degree that a fishes stump in growth is determined by size of inviroment surely, hence why i wrote

Kermit

to a degree yes

Good debate that i'm sure has been discussed but has anyone actually found any evidence of this?

Rob

[reef]

People say this all the time, i.e. "Fish only grow to the size of their tank." Is it really true???

Yep it is true; fish do only generally grow to the size of a tank. Some still get big but I have never seen a fish live long enough in NZ to get to the full size anyway.

Naso tangs get to be 46cm in the wild, wonder why i have never seen in that size in NZ??

There are many factors which restrict the size of the fish like food, swimming room etc,

Just look at the statistics, 1000 fish arrive a month in NZ and we only have about 200 Hobbyist, Where are the fish going??

[reef]

good thing about naso tangs is that if they get to big you can eat them

[BrineShrimp Guy]

That would make some of the most expensive fish 7& chips in NZ

BS

[JoeBlog]

Yep it is true; fish do only generally grow to the size of a tank. Some still get big but I have never seen a fish live long enough in NZ to get to the full size anyway.

This is my suspicion as well Reef. These very large fish that I’ve recently seen were over the 10 year mark (don’t know the age of the sharks).

This is a quote from http://www.wetwebmedia.com/naso.htm that supports the argument of death before adulthood for large fish:

"Buy larger (four plus inch) Unicornfishes. Can you get one that's too big? Sure, depending on the spatial assets of your set-up. I have seen more-than-a-foot Naso (lituratus) "streamers" (with long, trailing ends to the upper and lower margins of their caudal fin), placed with success in humungous systems. The same fish would die "mysteriously" of "behavioral problems" put in a six foot system."

Has anyone in this country (on this forum) even been keeping marines for this long? And if so, how many fish do they still have from the start?

Unfortunately, I only have two fish remaining from my initial setup three years ago. :oops: They are continuing to grow though.

[JoeBlog]

Hey everyone

We seem to be drifting into who is right and who is wrong about the size the fish can get! :evil:

Hi Trinity- I certainly don't want to start a flaming argument. I don't know the answer to this very frequently used statement about size of fish and restriction of growth to tank size, but it just doesn't seem logical to me and the weak evidence that I've seen from touring around also suggests otherwise. Therefore, I posed the question/statement for rebuttal. Given your original post, I thought that it may be useful to you as well given your consideration of purchasing potentially very large fish.

[Feelers]

I can definately see it as a possibility. There's a fish that lives in small ponds in africa that has grows to different sizes depending on whether there is a predatory fish present within the pool. Can anyone remember what this is? (I think it might be a killifish and a chilid but not sure)

That's a more bizzare example of environmental cues directly affecting fish growth. Its a definate possibility, but I'm sure there must be info on it somewhere.