HeadHunter Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Here is a picture of it... what can I do to safe the poor thing! Well, I'm giving it a refridgeration treatment (~7'C) at the moment since the water temperate of the tank is about 28'C due to warm weather. Been in the fridge for about 24hours now.. still upside down. but it still have good sign of life. Is there anything I can do to help her?? thank you in advance.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim&Dan Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Wow, poor thing! Sorry, I don't know anything about these little fellas - wish I could help... Good luck with her! :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 ooo poor thing. im on the same boat as kimanddan sorry dont know much about them but that looks bad. hope she gets better sharn should be able to help you. hopefully she will see this thread in time :-? Good luck **EVIL** :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Sorry don't know anything about Axolotols, it might pay to give your local vet or pet store a call if you haven't already tried that. Good luck, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 I would say, give Eric a call at Wet Pets, great Guy and full of knowledge, he may be able to help you and this poor little thing. Do hope you get it sorted. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 first of all i will say you have done the right thing by the fridge. you need to do daily water changes while shes in there (looks like a she from pic). keep a spare bottle of water next to her container for water changes, temp fluctations will make her even worse. wrap the container in a towel to stop the light freaking her out. also lower the water level so that she can tough the bottom when shes the right way up. you need to get those stones out of there! my first thought is that shes eaten some (thats why we reccomend to keep them on sand, need some let me know) and shes blocked herself up. theres no way to un-block her except patience and alot of hope. either that or the temp has stressed her alot. come to www.axolotl.org and sign up and post this on the forum under sick axie. we have some people on there that are like books and may have other ideas of what to do. lets hope she pulls through! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadHunter Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 yes is a she... and she didn't make it.... found out this morning... I rang a friend that's a vet and she told me to gave it a salt water bath treatment and i did it yesterday for 2 minutes... and didn't keep her in the fridge after that ... as that's what the vet advise me to do... The vet is more into real animals than 'fish'. oh well, she warned me as there is not much hope when they bloated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hi Headhunter, Really sorry to hear about your axolotl , really sad when we lose something that we care for so much. Do hope you will be ok. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 sorry about your loss mmhmm those salt baths were a good reccomendation, but generally only help with skin problems. i use 1tbsp to 1 litre personally. you keep them in the bath for no more than 15 mins as the salt hurts their gills and can cause them to bleed just added that for future reference for people reading over, i can post the link to the exact thread on the salt baths if anyone wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Sorry about your loss Head Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrshanepaul Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I have read about floating Axies. This is mostly due to bacterial infection.Considering the temperature you quoted, and the fluctuations that would have happened at night, I find it hard to believe it would have been a pebble - but who can say for sure? 28 degrees was WAY too high (24 is absolute max, 18 is better) and needed to be addressed somehow. A fan blowing over the tank may have helped a little, but who can say. High temps stress them out AND promote bacterial growth - a deadly combination. Frequent water changes could have helped as well as salt baths, but it would have been easier just to reduce the temperature. It is even possible to massage them in emergency, but make sure you use well washed latex gloves! Too late now of course, and I am sorry for your loss. From: http://axolotl.org/faq.htm ========================= Often, some stress will lead to a small bacterial infection in the gut. This would lead to a gas build up, and the floating. It is possible that the axolotl swallowed a large amount of air into its digestive system too. Warm temperatures (over 20 °C / 68 °F) don't help. Anything over 25 °C / 77 °F is far too warm for axolotls - just in case you didn't know. As to how to solve the problem, axolotls find it stressful when they can't touch the bottom. I suggest you lower the water level so that the axolotl is touching the bottom, but still submerged. The fact that it can touch the bottom should help to relieve the stress and hence help it to recover. If you keep it at temperatures over 20 °C / 68 °F it will probably make it harder for the axolotl's gut to keep up with any bacterial activity, so try and keep it cooler. As long as it eats, that's a good sign. Sometimes it is possible to massage the animal's abdomen to help it pass the gas, but it's hard to do without hurting and/or stressing the animal. It's safer to do what I've suggested and let the animal pass the gas on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 when they eat pebbles it can block em up and sometimes make em float. however its not normally upside down and i was just adding that bit about pebbles for further refererence. people, dont keep your axies on gravel!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrshanepaul Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 when they eat pebbles it can block em up and sometimes make em float. however its not normally upside down and i was just adding that bit about pebbles for further refererence. people, dont keep your axies on gravel!!!! I know, but it was a little ambiguous (I thought) and needed to be addressed verbosely - especially since it is summer. I am 99.95% this was temperature related, as I am sure you are. PS: Off to double check the temp on my tank. I have two golden albinos and at $70 a pop I don't really want them belly up...literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 mm im keepin an eye on my newly aquired albino yeeehaaa first i seen in nz so im super stoked about 'him', i know auckland zoo has one and im sure there would be another couple floating around nz. mwahahaha got my golden for 50, i was so stoked when she upped the price, boy do i love getting good deals lol. you get yours off angie too? have you registerd on the axie forum? bet it was temp, i feel sorry for the aussie owners, there are so many people whose axies die from the heat because they dont know how to cool the tank, and for most people a chiller is just too expensive, im sure half of aussies axies spend the summer in the fridge lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrshanepaul Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Yeah, I did. She raises them from eggs in green water tanks that are just kept outside. Hilarious. The various creepies that live in the tank feed them. I have not registered because I have trouble just keeping up with this forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormalicious Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Hi - old post i realise but can i have a link to the n.z axo forums if you have it as I cant seem to find it ;0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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