richms Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Before I go and try it and possibly smoke my pumps, how well do they cope with the squarewave power out of UPS's and inverters? I know that things with a capacitive powersupply (bug zapper) tend to blow up because of the very high amount of harmonics, I was thinking that a simple induction motor would be OK since the inductiveness of the windings would not draw excessive current like the capacitive powersupplies. But isnt there a starting capacitor and winding in these cheap little singlephase motors? Will that be ok. ideally looking for sucess/failure stories, and if sucess how much power is lost when running on battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Shadded pole induction motors similar to those used in aquarium pumps do not usually have a cap. Some larger pumps can though (>100W). An induction motor still has a whole pile of extra harmonics in it too. The current waveform often changes drastically and the heating is higher. Instead of bing sinusoidal with a phase-lag, the waveform ends up looking very pointy (still with a phase-lag). The RMS is still almost the same but higher harmonics cause extra heating in the iron of the stator (due to delta f cubed). The extra heating isn't a lot and the pump should work ok. I've never tried running a pump on a quasi-squarewave type UPS. My pumps run on a dual-conversion sinewave output one. Keep in mind, it will only be running on quasi-squarewaves when the mains is absent. This usually isn't long. For the short amount of time the pump will ever see non-sinewave voltage it should be ok. Most UPS's with long holdup times are sinewave output. Most smaller units won't run a single small pump for more then 1-2 hours anyway. Sorry I can't be more help on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 We found the Eheim worked fine on a modified squarewave UPS but the Fluval wouldn't run at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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