lduncan Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Hahahahaha I can't see them so they can't see me. Secutity by obsecurity is a misnomer. No. I mean Macs are obscure, in that there are not a lot of them, so they are not seen as a high priority "target". But that's only a small part of why there are zero virus' doing the rounds. Go the apple. If its more secure how come there were more security exploints for mac OS then for Win OS in the last 12 months? Look at what those bugs, (none of them exploited in the wild) actually are, how many are remotely exploitable, or how many are actually exploitable at all, then compare that to the 10,866 virus and variants created and spread in the first 6 months of 2005 for Windows. In terms of home users, Macs are a lot more secure, there are absolutely no exploits in the wild for them. Ask any mac user if their computer has been affected by a virus or spyware, you won't find any. Plug a Windows machine into the internet, and the average infection time is under 15 minutes. Not sure if you've priced up an apple latley, but they are expensive, very expensive. Always have been, looks set to continue for the future. I'm not going to go there. Those who own them know it's true. Companies which have switched know it's true. Windows keeps a whole industry of IT people employed ;-). WASP - Cancel my advice. Buy a Mac and all your security issues will disolve. You know its true, Layton said it. ApplePie Well with ZERO virus spyware and exploits in the wild. I'd agree with that... for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostface Posted December 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 http://www.electric-chicken.co.uk/itoilet.html i love it when mac users talk....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Hahahaha yeah. We support about 3,500 macs here in NZ. In terms of home users, Macs are a lot more secure, there are absolutely no exploits in the wild for them. Sure if you say so, lets ask SANS: The Mac OS X was released by Apple in 2001 as a solid UNIX-based Operating System. Although Mac OS X has security features implemented out of the box such as built-in personal firewall, un-necessary services turned off by default and easy ways to increase the OS security, the user still faces many vulnerabilities. Mac OS X also includes the Safari web browser. Multiple vulnerabilities have been found in this browser and in certain cases exploit code has also been posted publicly. Apple frequently issues Mac OS X cumulative security updates that tend to include fixes for a large number of vulnerabilities with risk ratings ranging from critical to low. This complicates the tracking of vulnerabilities for this OS, and the best way to ensure security is to apply the latest cumulative patch U2.2. How to determine If You Are Vulnerable Any default or unpatched Mac OS X installations should be presumed to be vulnerable. EDIT - I tried to post in the security flaws foun in the month of November but there were so many this BB couldn't display them all! Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Don't worry Pies. I'm not saying it's not possible. Just that it doesn't happen, (or hasn't happened yet). I've had not one virus since '89, neither have I come across any in my work. Mac's don't have the problems Windows does. Again there are zero viruses in the wild targeting Macs. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 There are no virus at the moment, or rootkits that we know of, thats true no arguement from me. There are however many exploits and security flaws that continue to plague the mac at the moment that have little to do with virus infection. I've got nothing but love for the mac and Steve Jobs, he's funny. I used to have a few macs back in the early days. Macs used to have lots of virus issues in the late 80s and 90s. I havn't had one in the past 10 years. (edit - Mac that is). Arn't you 21 years old? So if you had a mac in 89 that would mean you would have been using your mac since you were about 6 years old. WOW. Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Sure the security flaws are there, I wouldn't say they plague the mac though, that sort of implies that they are an everyday problem, at the moment for home users they are something which can virtually be ignored. I'm 22, I was about 6 or 7 when I the family got their first computer, hand me down from Dad's business startup at the time. Yeah, Steve Jobs is an "unusual" one. He's got an interesting view on life. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Layton you're back! Where you been? It's been quite here a couple of days. If anyone here used a Mac, I knew it would be you How do you like the MacToilet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 How do you like the MacToilet? It's pretty funny. I always thought that the first iBooks looked like a toilet seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostface Posted December 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 :ahem: speaking of webcams, i just got a better quality one [cheers work :]. much better image. makes a huge difference. if anyone was going to set this up, i guess it would pay to get a decent camera. http://202.37.231.236:8080 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 HEAPS better! i got CAT5 wired up next to my tank. next year im getting an underwater IP web cam and hooking it up in the tank. watch this space! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostface Posted December 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 heheh sweeeet underwater would be rad, but wont coraline grow over the lens? ive seen some cams that you can control zoom & pan over http, they do autofocus too.. one was set up at AUT looking at a squid eggsack [gross] and you could zoom in & see the squid fry cruisin about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 http://www.thesciencesite.info/squidcam.shtml , the "click to view now!" thing. Its pretty cool, the squid has grown heaps since it hatched. He's very easy to see. It's a pretty fancy webcam. , sometimes it has trouble focusing because of the circular tank. Man a pet squid would be cool.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I'd rather have a pet cuttlefish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I like the idea of squids because they are so hard to look after that noone has ever really had a "pet" squid before. How much to big circular tanks cost? Thats the first hurdle to get over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 How would you get one feelers? It is not like you can go get it from your locol pet shop. Maybe a seafood wholesale place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 You can grow them from eggs, although thats pretty hard out. I would probably ask a fisherman, problem is is they are caught in a net they are probably screwed. The one in the photo was caught in a net, but had its 2 tenticles ripped off, and they cant eat with only their arms, so it died. You need a massive circular tank and perfect water quality, its not for everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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