Ira Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 sps is all about style and taste (thats why ira doesnt get it) I dunno, seems to me a lot of it is more about whose :oops: is bigger than personal preference, and I have no need to prove myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Brianemone wrote: sps is all about style and taste (thats why ira doesnt get it) Ira wrote: I dunno, seems to me a lot of it is more about whose is bigger than personal preference, and I have no need to prove myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petplanet Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 and plus fish are living creatures and shouldnt be bottled up for our amusement. Isn't that exactly what we are all doing? for smallish tank with anemone and soft coral are just T5 lights ok or do you need metal halides. Not a big sps fan Even normal T8 fluros will do. You will just need more of them. My tank looks better with two T5 tube than it did with 4 T8's. Most soft corals are very tolerant with the lower light levels. A lot of LPS will do well. With the anemone you really need to be sure about which type you are getting as they have very different light, feeding and substrate requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 fish that i keep will have a better survival rate and longer lives than their oceanic cousins. and enough room to live very happy lives. ira i was just tempting you for a response i still love a good softie tank, (just not many of them around, to many little frags and stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyM Posted November 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Where can you get chorals and anemone's from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 no where in wellington :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Not completely ture, there is a guy at Coastland (Raymus, at the pethouse) who has a limited range, but worth going to have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 you'd be better off going shopping at pies or stevea's house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetom Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 can you frag anemones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 no, but they can reproduce by splitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Amemones may be reproduced by chopping them, here is a pic when I did mine. The first pic immediately after chopping And this one the next day, one 1/2 still completely deflated, the other 1/2 coming back to life As I used to feed this anemone quite a lot, but only have a small tank, I had to chop this one in 1/2 quite a bit to keep it down to size. The one photographed is already a 1/2 anemone cut off the one in the tank. Now I never feed it at all, so not growing much. On another occasion in my frag tank an anemone got caught in a pump. A piece got cut off him by the pump, it had the base of some tentacles although the tentacles themselves were cut off, and a small piece of the side of the anemone. This went on to grow into a complete new anemone, but the strange thing was, the main anemone the bit came off, slowly worsened and in a week or so it died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetom Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Isn't nature such a complex thing!!! What sort of anemone is that in the pictures wasp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Entacmea Quadricolor, or bubble tip anemone, the basic brown variety. These are the hardiest of the clown hosting anemones, only thing wrong with them they are prone to moving around rather than stay where you want them. BTA's lend themselves to being propagated by chopping in half, because splitting in half is their natural way of reproducing. It is suspected they may reproduce sexually also, but this has not been definately confirmed. Here it is in the tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetom Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Wonder if they could split in half then reproduce with their other half? :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 they do reproduce sexually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Wonder if they could split in half then reproduce with their other half? dont see why not. they can split more than once! this is the type i bought off wasp over a year ago, keeps the clowns happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 couldnt see a split off breeding with the mother colony sexually as im sure they would be the same sex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 You'd have to ask an expert but I am pretty sure that a clone has to be the same sex... Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 NOTE: I guess that its not incest to have sex with yourself, and i'm not sure if that would make it homosexual sex technically or not. A question best answered by Jerry Springer "so.... you cloned yourself to have sex with yourself". Either way, offspring is impossible (unless you belive in god, and he wants it to happen, cause he can make anything happen). Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Are all anemones that can reproduce sexually one gender or the other or are some hermaphrodites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 i think i remember reading that BTA's are either/or, not hermaf's (now thats a classy abbvreviation ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetom Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 i had this disscus and i reckon if i cloned my self i'd... you know. :lol: :lol: I think it's just like being asexuall. :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Can local coldwater anemones adjust to a tropical tank?- Some of the ones found in NZ are quite odd as far as anemones go. Got some nice photos of some I found. The wondering anemone just floats around and sticks to whatever it wants. You can actually see it "walk" up the glass probably at the pace of a snail. I went to kaikoura and we had to do a project on the dominace heirachy of anenomes - by "fighting" them. this one is the wandering one, has really weird wart things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Yes many if not all will do fine in a tropical aquarium. I used to have some beautiful beadlet anemone collected at muriwai some of then could expand to dinner plate size. They would pop their side open and poke out hundreds of little baby ones sometimes too. Not a whole lot is known about anemone sex, but it seems they spawn by the males & females releasing eggs & sperm. From this article, slightly outdated now, here is a quote http://www.reefs.org/library/article/r_toonen8.html Quote "Among the species described, there is almost an even split between species that spawn pelagic larvae and those that brood internally. Becuase I had only ever heard of the release of sperm by spawning Entacmaea and Stichodactyla previously, I was starting to suspect that these species may be brooders, which makes it a lot easier to breed in aquaria. Of course, our sample size for spawnings is so low that I don't have much confidence in that guess, and if Ron's is releasing eggs rather than sperm, that guess is shot down ;-). Of those species that spawn pelagic or demersal larvae, there is again about an even spilt among those larvae that do and do not feed in the plankton. If we're lucky, the larvae will be non-feeding and have a very short time in the plankton, but if they release feeding pelagic larvae, or even if the larvae spend a reasonably long time in the plankton (some non-feeding species spend more than a year as a larvae before settling!) it may be difficult to impossible for us to raise the young in aquaria, even if we were to be successful in obtaining a spawning pair" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 My one try at keeping a local rockpool anemone was a complete failure, it fell apart into little chunks in about 2 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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