Anthony Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 hi, Could people please post pics and stuff about there sumps i want to get as much understanding about them as possible(if that makes sense) cheers Ant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 check back on Chimera & Pies threads, Heaps of pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 but thats only 2 peoples and there for big setups Ant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 yes, but the idea is still the same, just on a larger scale. no different just cut it down for your tank. for a 180 litre tank, consider having a 2 or 3 foot sump. if you're bold, go for a separate refugium. a 2 foot fuge (or plastic container!) and 2 foot sump would be ok. you need to design it for the room you have. if you can fit it, you could even go for a 4 foot tank with 3 sections (2 sets of baffles between each section) one for fuge, one for skimmer and one for return. the options are endless. the main things you need to watch for is: - most important: allow a reasonable amount of room in the return section for back flow if the power to the return pump goes off! - always better to go larger on piping down to sump then too small. however return plumbing is crucial to work out correct size (see me later for this if you like) - use baffles whenever possible to reduce microbubbles - especially in the return section - keep fuge separate (or segregated) from skimmer or return - you dont want caleurpa getting sucked into and blocking the skimmer inlet - or if skimmer is first from overflow, you dont want caleurpa getting sucked into return pump - you get the idea. - design for the flow of return (which is same as flow into sump) to avoid your fuge sandbed getting disturbed too much (ie: both my and pies setups have so much flow into fuge it's almost bubbling over the sides!) - allow for future expansion, bigger skimmer? rowaphos? zeovit? nitrate reactor? - ... more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 thanks chim thats just chnaged my mind completly because now i dont no what size tank to have a trainagle or a cubiod i just dont no suggeguestions ould be greatly apreciated here cheers Ant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 a triangular shape would effect what you could have under the tank. square (rectangle) is easier to work with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveA Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 My sump is just an old 135L tank and, for the last 10 years, this has been perfectly adequate to support a 1600L reef plus, up till recently, a second 250L tank. Now I have more space I will probably build a bigger one, and put a section of rock in it, but I don't really need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 ok ill go cuboid now what size tank either 900 alround or 600 alround but im staying with 450high all imput is greatly aprecianted! cheers Ant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 i find a large fuge and sump really good, more volume = less change of minor problems becoming major problems. fuge is great because it grows all the unwanted algae that you may get in your display tank. large sump is good for ease of water changes too. you can hold more livestock in the main tank. the skimmer doesnt have to be rated to sustain the entire volume of the system because the fuge and sump dont necessarily have livestock in it (or minimal) in fact, the fuge means greater area for biological breakdown of nutrients, growth of pods, an area for harassed fish, etc. only downside is larger water changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 water changes arent that much of a deal to me just over a drive about 10mins and im at the beach i want to keep the whole system about 400-500L so now i dont no what size to make the display tank Ant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Get a hang on skimmer then you wont need a sump. I have a ar980 with no sump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 i want a sump to increase my total water volume Ant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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