wasp Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Here's an interesting link since we've been discussing Goniopora lately http://zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2803 Perhaps the husbandary of this species is beginning to come in out of the cold. Of course, to breed them you need one of those piosonous Zeovit systems :lol: :lol: But, jokes aside, pretty interesting, yes? I've always avoided these corals, but may give one a shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Cool. Maybe the higher iron levels, increases the zoox in the coral, supplying it with more food than they would usually get. I remember reading an article a few months ago by Eric B. he was saying that gonioporas had a undeserved bad reputation. Many species often did well in many aquariums, but there were specific species which were found to be very difficult to keep, and the easy to keep species all got tared with the same brush. Steve Weast has also had success with gonioporas dropping babies. I see cyano too ;-) Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 my five cents , i had a goniopora a few years ago that produced 7 or 8 baby's, Alois got one of them. i just can't remember who bought the mother colonie of me. sorry to say wasp i didn't use any zeovit then, i started around four years later for the first time, but my tank was full and i mean full of caulerpa with only a 150w for a 3*2*2. :roll: and i had cyno too!!!! may be the algae had something to do with it, as it is full of iron. it crashed quite often too in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 So far no problems with Goni. Could be the iron as stated in the CORAL MAG . Some goni are easy and some are hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 sorry to say wasp i didn't use any zeovit then, i started around four years later for the first time, but my tank was full and i mean full of caulerpa with only a 150w for a 3*2*2. :roll: and i had cyno too!!!! may be the algae had something to do with it, as it is full of iron. it crashed quite often too in those days. No worries, I only threw the zeovit comment in to get Layton going, (didn't take long!) :lol: , I only said it for a joke. Just some info for you also Layton, a zeovit tank can house cyano bacteria if wanted, high dosing of some of the zeo products can support cyano in a tank. However, what looks like cyano in that pic, could possibly be a bacterial slime that may appear in a zeo tank with heavy dosing of some products, hard to tell just by the pic. I think that other tank that Alois referenced recently was not a zeo tank either. Well if there is an easy to care for strain that is also having babies, then that is the one I should be trying to get. Interesting G. Alexander is not target feeding his one either. That did appear to be what did the trick with the one in that article from Alois. Anybody else out there who has had one for a reasonable time period? This is pretty interesting. May also be of note Alois's cataphylia has also been doing well in the same tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 I only said it for a joke. So did I... kind of. ;-) Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 I've been waiting for you :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Cool. Maybe the higher iron levels, increases the zoox in the coral, supplying it with more food than they would usually get. Layton And hey! that's rich Just a few days ago you were saying the supposed iron in a zeovit system would reduce zoox and thereby bring out the pigments in corals. Now you're saying the opposite :lol: :lol: :lol: Sometimes you are a hoot!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Oh well, sorry for small diversion, I couldn't resist Back to Goniopora...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Sorry. I couldn't resist. But you're wrong. This shows your complete misunderstanding of what the iron may be doing. As I read the RC thread, the theory proposed, and already accepted as fact by some, is that iron would need to be dosed in quantities that are near lethal to certain zooxanthellae This is where you went wrong. Iron is not having a toxic effect on zooxanthellae at all. Quite the opposite. It allows them to increase in numbers. Much like the effect of a "red tide". Iron enrichment does this to algae in marine environments. It's the fact that they may increase in numbers within the coral tissue to levels beyond where the coral can regulate them, which may result in them being expelled by the coral. If you bothered to read anything in the paper, you will also see that different coral species differ in their tolerance levels, and they can actually adapt to elevated iron levels. This may also explain why you can see colour changes in corals while still having a lot of algae and cyano covering rocks. So wasp, please take the blinkers of and take the information at face value. I have no financial interest in the system, nor any other system, just an interest in the processes which may be going on. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Which one is it then? You shouldn't change your story just depending what you're trying to argue about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Actually, let's leave this a Goniopora thread. If you want to continue the "does or doesn't iron" thing, perhaps start a new thread Layton. I don't know if I'll join it though, too many vague conclusions thus far, not enough facts, and extremely selective use of the facts presented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 You shouldn't change your story just depending what you're trying to argue about. It's the same story, you've just never bothered to read it. Or don't understand it. In which case, I hope others find it useful. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 When in Melbourne I visited a LFS, which had a very large goniopora, the skeleton was probably 30 cm across. It was for sale for $15.00. It was beginning to die though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RnB Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 NZMAS meeting Please block out the following dates for the Aucklanders.... Thursday the 4th Aug - Designing a safety margin into your system - Larry Jackson Saturday the 3rd Sept (2pm meeting) - Reef Aquarium Myths: Tales from the Darkside - Eric Bourneman Tuesday 4th Oct - Captive husbandry of Goniopora, spp. with remarks about the similar genus Alveopora Thurs 3rd Nov - "Culturing Rotifers and Copopods" Monday 5th Dec - Getting On the Same Page - Bob Goremans Please see the posts / bio's below to learn more about our future presentatio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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