Kermit Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Hi all, can someone help? http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?t=7247 Thanks. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Ring Rod..... Chimera knows his number, he makes tanks all day long. you dont want less than 12mm on a tank that size though. Give him a ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Yeah i agree 12mm it can't be that much more a. I'll give Rod a call thanks why didn't i think of that myself dir. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Yeah i agree 12mm it can't be that much more a. I think there is a massive price jump from 10mm up to 12mm glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 i believe so too. therefore should go 12mm on the front/back and 10mm sides and bottom. kermit - if you phone rod can you ask him the difference in price and post back here? would be interested to see the actual difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Well i rung glasstech as they seem to be the cheapest by far and the prices for me are 10mm @ $120+gst/sqm and 12mm @ $165+gst/sqm, now the lady at glasstech gave me this info as for how they calculate the glass thickness required, just a pitty it doesn't have my size tank bugger. http://www.metroglass.co.nz/138.asp One thing to add to the site above is that the pressure of 6kpa for a 600mm deap tank is correct for fresh as the specific gravity of fresh water is 1.000 but the specific gravity of salt water is 1.025 (depends on tank salt specific gravity) so for a marine tank the pressure is 6.15kpa @ 600mm deapth. Another interesting thing is that glass weighs approx 2.5kg/sqm/1mm thinkness so 10mm=25kg/sqm and 12mm=30kg/sqm and so on. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Glass weight is a funny one. If you look through my thread, it took 9 people to move my tank, 2 of my friends are complete ogres too and it was damn hard work. Heave stuff for sure. Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Dam 9 people man, how did they all fit through the door i bet your stand weighs a bit to little to add the weight of water at 1.025Kg/L (again depending on specific gravity). How much water in your tank alone Pies? Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 you havent seen his post??? with the crane and all??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 friend of yours pies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 O'yeah i have i'm just wondering what the total weight the display tank is as it must be getting up there. :-? scary thought but that steel beam he has will hold it i'd hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Yeah, I think that'd be Suphew, Chim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 If you look through my thread, it took 9 people to move my tank, 2 of my friends are complete ogres too and it was damn hard work. Not to mention the crane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Suphew, You're better looking than I imagined!! (Even though I dont know you from a bar of soap)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I'm free on friday big boy...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Well since i first posted this the price of the tank has doubled in coin and weight, so for now i'll build the stand out of solid rimu and purchase the base of the tank so i can do my aqua scaping drilling holes where needed and build the sump, may even have enough money at the end to plumb the mare up. Thanks all for your help i'm going 12mm sides and as for the base i've still got to work out but was thinking 2 x 12mm sheets laminated together by glass company as long as its safe to drill after lamination. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 You can laminate them together yourself. We did, using standard tank silicone (about 8 tubes!). The problem was one of compression, we have everything we could stacked on it, in hindsight we should have put the glass on the ground and driven a car over it. No problem drilling it, just takes so much longer.... As for the costs, hehehehe welcome to the club. Everything costs about 2x more than you planed. The funny thing is I know this so I factor it in, and still it doubbles! Depending on the tank size, I would STRONGLY reccomend using a steel frame of wood. Also will probably be cheaper, steel as not as expensive as people think. Steel will be much stronger (more of a concern latterly than just holding the weight though). Sounds like a fun project, good luck. Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I would STRONGLY reccomend using a steel frame of wood. Also will probably be cheaper, steel as not as expensive as people think. Steel will be much stronger (more of a concern latterly than just holding the weight though) steel frame of wood?? instead of wood? what size/shape/quality steel is best and what prep do you need to do to it to make it rust proof, i would like to use steel for my new stand but dont know much about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 this projet has been on my mined since i first started my marine tank about 14months ago i was only going to make the sump and use it as a tank till we made the large tank and then it slowly got bigger by the day and then we decided to go ahead and make the big tank instead i was originally going to make the big tank 2100L x 1200w x 700d but when i hung the tape messure over the back of the couch to get an idea of depth my wife and i were surprised in how far 1200w was so we cut it back to 1800L x 900w x 650-700d i may go 1000w though just a thought but dont tell the wife . But o well i've got plenty of 3' and 4' tanks around so i can use those for now to keep my new fish when they're released in. I supose just having the base is really going to work out as i'll so much fredom in setting up the land scape and drilling holes and just playing around with it all. Hey reef got any cheap under water fans (Tunze) lying around i think i'll need about 4 x 6100 and a controller only kidding i think they wait for now, i'll go rob a bank first. those and 12000L/h return will give 60x turn over in the tank. Damn this hobby has consumed me, now i'm rambling on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 The most common (and cheapest) I have seen is box section about 75mm by 50mm. just needs to be painted with an etching primer like PA10. If your worried you can get it gav dipped, but no one ever spills water do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Hmm steel frme i was going to originally but i've got all this rimu timber lying around enough to build the base i'll have to think long and hard steel would be liter to but as most people say rust is a factor then wood rots hmmmm thinking thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Go with the Steel, prime against rust. Mine is almost a year in, not a hint of rust and not spilled a drop yet (upstairs). I am using 3x Ehiem 1262s (3200 liter hr) for closed loops, 1 IWAKI 100 (return x2 sea swirls) and 3 6100 Streams. At the moment, I don't think the Streams are nessesary and I have more than enough flow without them, however as the corals grow they will become more valuable. 900mm wide, I think is a 'funny' size. I started with 900 but ended up with 950. 950 allows for a 3 foot tube to be run width ways, 900 is just under 3 foot. That was my thinking for the width. Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Suphew...... please no........I wont do it again....!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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