bigfishhead Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hi Guys, Anyone can ID below fish? I raise a dozen of these since fry. I was told they are "Red Empress" Now one and half years later young adult about 10cm including tail as below. Most recently I lost patience :evil: for waiting coloring up... start questioning whether they are red empress.... :facepalm: As most adult red empress should looks like something below? Protomelas Taeniolatus (Red) Super Red Empress Fire Hap http://www.livefishdirect.com/store.php?fid=85 The closest match Hap cichlids I can find to my cichlid is below. Haplochromis/Protomelas Ndiwe Fire Hap. http://www.livefishdirect.com/store.php?fid=405 Any thought ??.... Thx in advance :bounce: How long does it take for Red Empress to fully coloring up? :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuri08 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 id be very hesitant to say that was a Taeniolatus.head shapes pretty off (imo) looks like it might have azureus in it?for me its a hybrid mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishhead Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 id be very hesitant to say that was a Taeniolatus.head shapes pretty off (imo) looks like it might have azureus in it?for me its a hybrid mate Yeah.. I hate to go down that track.. even I already knew it....Hybrid :facepalm: But he is a really cool hybrid then :nilly: Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beets Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 i agree i have had 8 red empress from fry and 1 male is starting to colour up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishhead Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 i agree i have had 8 red empress from fry and 1 male is starting to colour up now Hmmm...TOTALLY different looking to my one when they are young. So what combination of hybrid is mine? It would be very interesting to see when it grows to full color... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 i agree i have had 8 red empress from fry and 1 male is starting to colour up now There is no point in trying to identify the hybrid but your one looks like it has some D. Comp in it. jckingjc it is probably a good idea to go to a proper site to look at photos of fish, cichlid-forum, fish base etc would be better places to go than a sale site. I pulled my Ad Konings books out and on the page for Protomelas taeniolatus (red empress) there are 8 different variants from 8 different parts of the lake, each look distantly different, varying degrees of red differing barring etc so it is very hard to pull an ID off a random photo off the internet. Plus the photo you have has a fancy trade name associated with it (Super Red Empress Fire Hap) meaning it is probably a line bred strain probably not comparable to what we have in NZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycoolmc Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 For comparison here is a photo of my male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishhead Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 There is no point in trying to identify the hybrid but your one looks like it has some D. Comp in it. jckingjc it is probably a good idea to go to a proper site to look at photos of fish, cichlid-forum, fish base etc would be better places to go than a sale site. I pulled my Ad Konings books out and on the page for Protomelas taeniolatus (red empress) there are 8 different variants from 8 different parts of the lake, each look distantly different, varying degrees of red differing barring etc so it is very hard to pull an ID off a random photo off the internet. Plus the photo you have has a fancy trade name associated with it (Super Red Empress Fire Hap) meaning it is probably a line bred strain probably not comparable to what we have in NZ. Eye biter?...No way... My guess would be mixed with red Kadango. Anyway... It is hybrid. What a shame waste all my effort :an!gry I think I just gona buy an adult male at some stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishhead Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 For comparison here is a photo of my male. Nice... :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Eye biter?...No way... My guess would be mixed with red Kadango. Anyway... It is hybrid. What a shame waste all my effort :an!gry I think I just gona buy an adult male at some stage. Could be kadango to, but at the end of the day the pic in the picture does look hybrid, yours I am not so sure of.. Give it some time to colour up and see what happens, where did you get them from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfishhead Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 I got them off from a guy in mt Roskill long time ago. I will see what they look like when full grow. At the end of the day, they are good looking hybrid :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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