wasp Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 If they are still eating, get some garlic cloves from the supermarket, crush or grate very fine, and feed it to them. Has never failed me yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 stink pink skunk clowns are very nice, my brother had one but it was very small and didnt do well in the transfer into his tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 If they are still eating, get some garlic cloves from the supermarket, crush or grate very fine, and feed it to them. Has never failed me yet. Wasp will disagree but there is no scientific data to prove that garlic works or has any positive effect on whitespot at all. I would encourage you to avoid stressing the fish as much as possilbe, feed more heavily than normal and concentrate on keep water paramaters perfect and stable. Many of us have survived whitespot. Any course of action (garlic, toxins, lower salinity, increase temp etc) will add to the stres levels of the fish. Stop the stress, expect the whitespot to subside, lots of changes will stress the animals, expect them to die. Pieman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 http://www.reefs.org/library/article/h_ ... jorge.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Wasp - Thats the same 4 year old link you posted last time garlic was mentioned. Its 4 years old and all it says is in theory it 'may' help, but more information is needed. Nothing in that article says that Garlic will does help, or that its reccomended. Now I am not saying it doesn't work, what I am saying is there is little to no evidance that it does. It may also do harm, who knows what it does to the digestive tracks and organs of a fish. I wouldn't risk it if it was me. Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RnB Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 you really only have three options.... A) do nothing and hope fish is strong enough to overcome the attack, given its recent capture/import this may or may not work. I have moved fish from other peoples tanks to mine only for them to show slight WS signs, so far has cleared every time, tho never looked serious. I suspect all the movement, new territory etc stresses fish big time. IMHO happy healthy fish can tolerate WS in the tank. Never lost a fish to this so far. B) If you had a cycled Q tank you could hypo all your fish... no point if you not going to do this every time you add fish tho. and it may be the final straw for your fish above. C) Borrow someones UV system.... will not cure but can cut down the number of parasites in the water, giving fish more of a chance to gain strength...... lets us know what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Pies, Yup, still the same 4 year old link, as no matter how many times you keep posting that garlic is no good, I am still convinced from my own experience that it is. Despite knowing you would not approve, I decided to post this link and afford the person the opportunity to read it, they can then make a more informed decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RnB Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Thats funny wasp - I am convinced doing nothing makes it go away! perhaps next time you do nothing and I feed garlic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Thats funny wasp - I am convinced doing nothing makes it go away! perhaps next time you do nothing and I feed garlic I've tried doing nothing, with sad results. Doing nothing may work, depending on a number of other factors, however I'd rather be a little more pro active. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 ...they can then make a more informed decision. What information did you get out of that link relating to fish and white spot? All I got was maybe's might's, potential, and speculation. What use is that? How is that making a more informed decision? Although the article may be interesting, it does anything but provide the information required to make and informed decision on this. My advice is the same as Pie's. Feed your normal food, and feed a little more heavily. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 umm.. you bought the fish didn't you? Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben19185074 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Ofcourse i brought the fish~~ if not i won't be looking like that (Not only the fish was in poor quality, one is likly not to survive it spread whitespot around my tank) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Funny this. A friend of mine bought some freshwater fish and had exactly the same thing. She called me this morning to inform me what has happened and wanted some help. This afternoon she informed methat some of her tetra's died as well as the bristlenose. Any success with Whitespot cure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 My friend bought fish without any signes of whitespot, and 1 1/2 weeks later the whole tank is infected. Now what???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben19185074 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 There is some signes on one of the crown. Didn't notice any white spot(Maybe i didn't take too much of a look) but it has a red ass + the tail seems to be bitten. I ask their stuff got told that they are ok~~ Didn't see anyway pink shuk crown for sale for the last year so i brought it without thinking too much~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RnB Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Sounds like a good advertisment for a quarantine tank! running hypo or light copper....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben19185074 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Lets not try to get to the wholesalers. I has seen stock deliver to the LFS many times and they are in very good quality. (If the wholesalers tank is crap i don't think the fish can live through the QT period) I think the viruses has got into the fish in the tanks of the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Not only the fish was in poor quality, one is likly not to survive it spread whitespot around my tank Well that begs the question. Why did you buy a fish in such condition? By the way, you would be extremely hard pressed to show me a reef tank without white spot. My tank has white spot. None of my fish are affected by it because they are healthy. But it's still there ready to infect any fish which becomes too stressed. Healthy fish live with white spot present in tanks. Make sure water conditions are perfect, the fish are fed well and you won't have problems with fish dying from white spot. It is normal for some new fish to have white spot outbreak when newly introduced. It can stress them and other fish. If water parameters and food are appropriate, they will easily recover within a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I think the viruses has got into the fish in the tanks of the shop. Nope, i'd be willing to be it was there well before the fish ever entered the country. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 My friend bought fish without any signes of whitespot, and 1 1/2 weeks later the whole tank is infected. Now what???? And that's the shops fault? Nope. Healthy fish will easily recover as long as tank conditions are good. What sort of fish was it, what size tank, what other fish are in the tank? Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben19185074 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Well that begs the question. Why did you buy a fish in such condition? By the way, you would be extremely hard pressed to show me a reef tank without white spot. My tank has white spot. None of my fish are affected by it because they are healthy. But it's still there ready to infect any fish which becomes too stressed. Healthy fish live with white spot present in tanks. Make sure water conditions are perfect, the fish are fed well and you won't have problems with fish dying from white spot. It is normal for some new fish to have white spot outbreak when newly introduced. It can stress them and other fish. If water parameters and food are appropriate, they will easily recover within a couple of days. There is a few reason as to why i brought it: firstly it doesn't look as bad as it is now, secondly i don't see it for sale before for the last year, and most importantly i got told by the staff that it was ok~~ I do agree that it is close to not possible to get a tank without white spot and that if the fish is healthy it will be fine after a few days of introduction. Now i just wait and see if the old fish gets well and the new crowns stay alive without me doing anything other then feding it well. If the result is positive which mean they sold me a nice, high quality pair of pink shuk crown~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I don't know where the clowns came from but can assure you not from us, we go to extreme measures to assure our fish go out in top condition, In fact we still have a pair of skunks that we have had for 5 weeks and didnt sell them as we werent happy with their quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmatix Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Calvin wrote: My friend bought fish without any signes of whitespot, and 1 1/2 weeks later the whole tank is infected. Now what???? Ask ben19185074 about his incident with a lemonpeel bought from, us and the service he recieved ? I bet that the white spot was bought on by stress from the move and or new tank mates or poor water quality. Many marines carry white spot it just depends on conditions whether or not it comes out, many sp are immune to WS or have high resistance others low. I have no concerns turning down a sale if i feel a fish is not fit. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben19185074 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Calvin wrote: Ask ben19185074 about his incident with a lemonpeel bought from, us and the service he recieved ? I bet that the white spot was bought on by stress from the move and or new tank mates or poor water quality. Many marines carry white spot it just depends on conditions whether or not it comes out, many sp are immune to WS or have high resistance others low. I have no concerns turning down a sale if i feel a fish is not fit. Ben I am very happy with Jansens service. I got my lemonpeel from them and it wasn't eating (not sick or anything the fish is in good shape). Ben tell me to bring the fish back and he will look after it for me. At last the fish didn't make it but i got a full refund back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 What's happening Ben? How's the whitespot situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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