henward Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Itwould be absolutely awesome to have this here, legal. I wonder what the rationale is can this species even survive in the NZ wild? i believe its too moist here, too cold for them to even at all explode in population let alone breed in the nz natural climates here. anyway, im struggling to find freeze dried superworms even! anyone know a source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Itwould be absolutely awesome to have this here, legal. I wonder what the rationale is can this species even survive in the NZ wild? i believe its too moist here, too cold for them to even at all explode in population let alone breed in the nz natural climates here. anyway, im struggling to find freeze dried superworms even! anyone know a source? Probably the same as most of the fish that are illegal, there is no real reason for it, it is just how it is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 lol what can i say to that:D im sure someone here from that side of work can elaborate that rationale behind it. i can understand if we live in a country like miami, warm and tropical ish. but not NZ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc254 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 you would have to do a new organism application. It would be declined, maybe freeze dried but still would require a import permit for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!CrunchBang Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 They are illegal because they become a beetle that could survive and become a problem invasion species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perpin Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 They would not be able to survive any better than the mealworm beetles. Infact they need warmth more than mealworms do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 you would have to do a new organism application. It would be declined. why/on what grounds? is it a major process ... id rather see brown crickets (have been in NZ in the past) and a non-climbing species of roach imported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason22 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 why/on what grounds? is it a major process ... id rather see brown crickets (have been in NZ in the past) and a non-climbing species of roach imported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc254 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 because you have to get a new genus on the approved list, then how do you import them? do they need to be quarantined for disease? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 they are already here anyway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 because you have to get a new genus on the approved list, then how do you import them? do they need to be quarantined for disease? so it wont necessarily be declined? how do you get a new genus on 'the approved list'? Quaranteen and import wouldnt be that hard, follow the red tape :sml2: . I suspect getting them approved, in the first place, will be the challenging bit. mealworms must have been imported back in the day, or just shown up here... i wonder if any new stock has been imported over the past 10 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc254 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 so it wont necessarily be declined? how do you get a new genus on 'the approved list'? Quaranteen and import wouldnt be that hard, follow the red tape :sml2: . I suspect getting them approved, in the first place, will be the challenging bit. mealworms must have been imported back in the day, or just shown up here... i wonder if any new stock has been imported over the past 10 years or so. It would be expensive and to get MAF to create a IHS would not be a priority for them so it may take years if its approved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 me no like assumptions. gimme facts :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmX Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 give maf, or whoever a ring and go for it matt. they look just like common old wire worms, whats the differcnce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 would be interesting to know exactly what is involved. bringing in new feeders could put me out of biz though. so im not in any hurry :sml2: in reality nor could i afford to pursue it atm, other priorities :facepalm: wireworms - if referring to the big native darkling bettle/mealworm. i attempted to breed some once. lived for many months but no young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmX Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 surely you would have the market cornered if you were the only breeder/original importer? at least for a little while;) wireworms.. just like so many animals in nz they may be slow breeders, like cicadas which i think take years to complete there lifecycle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Possibly. Anyone want to bank roll a young entrepreneur/student please stand up google brought up click beetles as wireworms. i have never tried keeping them. would be an interesting experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmX Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 i thought they were a 10 to 15mm more rounded beetle found in large numbers under bark, logs.. . more of a chaffer beetle shape. but that seems to be the false wireworm. seems there might be a nich in the market, assuming there nutritionally similar to superworms and not harmfull to pets etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmX Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 woops yea i mean the darkling beetle :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 either would be worth a try. found in large numbers under bark, logs... yeap - the ones i had were found in some rotten firewood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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