Sophia Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Normally I hate these sort of threads but the worm has turned and now I'm starting one of my own :facepalm: My bugs tank that has few bugs - first go at culturing daphnia in a tank was not a success so am thinking about whether to ditch that idea and use the tank for something else. Tank details: 22 litres Sponge filter as you can see Small amount of gravel substrate - am not buying more so all future plants must be attached to the wood. Lighting - 7 watt 6500k clip on variety, with a timer Main factor - location is in the garage so it will not be in view most of the time. Therefore anything I put in there needs to be low tech, low maintenance. No stem plants wanted, no fancy rockwork and glosso either. Ideally the fish would be a single species and would be something that will breed if left to its own devices. And not guppies either. Ideas so far: Ember tetra Emerald eye tetra Mosquito rasbora Clown killies (Aq Advisor says warning warning this tank is too small as they might grow to 3.5cm!!! haha) A. Australe gold killies More shrimp –semi pointless as I know they can’t breed in freshwater but they are fun to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 sparkling gouramis they are tiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 sparkling gouramis they are tiny They are pretty. One of the things I read said you should remove the male when the fry are free swimming - that isn't an option here though. I may have read something overly cautious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 im not sure i have two in a 7l tank i dont even know what sex they are if i ever get fry i will know lol nice colours under subdued lighting though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 thanks, I will put them on the list of fish to look at in the shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Betta Splendens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Don't like em much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Don't like em much. Killies then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 group of white cloud minnows? it'd be low tech, low maintence at least? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 group of white cloud minnows? it'd be low tech, low maintence at least? Cold water too? And with lots of moss etc any potential fry will have a better chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I like the idea of not needing a heater. The garage isn't cold in winter. The driftwood has a hole through it, and I have some native moss in there already, I thought I would push some java or xmas moss through the hole and it grow through and up around the java fern. There would be plenty of places to hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephanie Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 And with lots of moss etc any potential fry will have a better chance Just to correct you, mountain minnows aren't egg eaters, they scatter eggs and forget about them. Moss is just good to collect food for the fry. Hence we have hundreds of thousands. :happy2: Because they do not generally cannibalize their offspring, the parents can be left in the tank. You can have some if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Just to correct you, mountain minnows aren't egg eaters Mine did :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephanie Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 You would end up getting the half dozen or so cannibal minnows in the world. :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Celestial pearl danios - they breed in a tank that is mossed out and heater would be set low (I have read on some sites that they go down to 7C in their natural environment but 20-22 is good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 You would end up getting the half dozen or so cannibal minnows in the world. :dunno: Josh breeds 'em mean & hungry are your minnows in a tank or pond? Celestial pearl danios - they breed in a tank that is mossed out and heater would be set low (I have read on some sites that they go down to 7C in their natural environment but 20-22 is good). These are pretty as well. My options are building :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 My tank culture of daphnia is only barely surviving but the small pond I have outside which is supposed to be producing the green water for the tank is literally red with the daphnia. Go figure!! I think its the direct sunlight on the pond as opposed to filtered sunlight on the tank thats the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Nature refuses to let me culture (read 'control') it!! :roll: I will leave my bucket of green water outside and see what grows in there. If it ends up being a live food source then all well and good, I have a free tank. Next thing I found was scarlet badi or dario dario! Those are very sweet little fish. It seems that a pair would be OK in a little tank. I can feel a 'just looking' trip to HFF coming on this afternoon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted January 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Lots of interesting things at the shop as usual. Came back with a list of 20 potential species, got it down this far at least. Choices I like best in no particular order : cold: white cloud mountain minnows pearl danio tropical: cory hastatus scarlet badi clown killies gold australe killies if anyone has any stories to tell about any of these I'd love to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephanie Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 are your minnows in a tank or pond?: Tank at the moment. clown killies Yes if you go tropical! These guys are super cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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