Insect Direct Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 After any suggestions on plants for frog setups. Especially natives but what ever goes cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTM Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Good idea for a thread, and as per my comment in ID's other thread, I'm planning to redo my terrarium for some new frogs. So definitely interested to see what people recommend, and then try them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 i had a small fern and palm like tree in mine with grasses and moss i got from the bush. i kind of left it in the inclosure for a week or so before adding the frogs, tadpols and they seemed to love it :bounce: . i've also seen a neet thing on like of foggers in them to help keep it warm and moist. if i ever have frogs again i would look into a 2nd hand one, also looks cool :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted October 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Wow thats a mean fogger. Search humidifier on trademe and some similar ones come up. You can get cheapish foggers or mist things in bunnings/warehouse from time to time, come with pond features etc. Havent seen them for a while but havent been looking all that hard either. But not sure how they work and or how much heat they produce. Wouldnt want it too hot. Something like this should be safe as though http://www.trademe.co.nz/Health-beauty/ ... 839380.htm Plants would love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 yea with a wee modification lol. i suppose our frogs aren't as tropical as poison arrow frogs. their awesome though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 there's one like this http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Pe ... 778268.htm only $62 buy now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted October 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 anyone know how they work, like does it sit at water level or have a tube go into tank? does it get hot? think theyre the same/similar prduct only in a fancy package as to what you can get a bunnings sometimes. apparently need distilled and or clean water to work...i can see them being temperamental... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTM Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 anyone know how they work, like does it sit at water level or have a tube go into tank? does it get hot? think theyre the same/similar prduct only in a fancy package as to what you can get a bunnings sometimes. apparently need distilled and or clean water to work...i can see them being temperamental... Looking at the instructions..http://www.reptileone.com.au/instructions/Tropical%20Cloud/Tropical%20Cloud%20Reptile%20instruction.pdf It seems that it needs to be in a reservoir 47-61mm deep, and has a sensor to cut out if the water level drops too low. Also it estimate 3000 hours work before needing some type of "parts replacement". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 yea i've seen them as decorations on indoor water features. it's almost like smoke not hot or any thing. and you probably wouldn't have it on all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted October 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 i dont like the idea of having it in with bell frogs, theyl jump all over it and i have a feeling the plate gets hot, could be wrong though. the proper humidifiers that you can run a hose to the tank would be the way to go. be good for plants but more for the effect that looks neat. otherwise can get a pump and just make a rain chamber out of a spray bar sort of thing. that'l keep plants and frogs happy, dont want it too wet all the time though. or do what i did in this setup http://www.youtube.com/user/nzexotics#p/u/1/RwIcz24Ckc0 (ignore the guy mumbling, not sure who that is) can pickup equivalent pumps on tm for about $60-70, adapter from dick smith about $20 then buy fittings and tube from bunnings for about $10. put on timer and bobs your aunty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlogged Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 lol i used to just use a spray bottle when i was little lol. Tip though, don't put maggots in an aquarium to hatch when it is at the head of your bed lol. they might be able to get out in the middle of the night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 yeah well for $3 a spray bottle is probably worth it, just need to remember to use it lol to true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTM Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I've actually got a little mini aquarium pumps which I used previously to create a bit of a waterfall in the terrarium. I think I will give what ID did a go, would be the best and easiest way to keep all the plants watered. The only thing is that I was thinking of have a substrate covering the bottom this time, so not sure how to stop that getting to the pump, and blocking it, and allow access for maintenance (perhaps a reservoir pond at the back of the terrarium....). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 any suggestions for plants fokes. plants that ive found todo ok. bromeliads acorus javamoss sphagnum moss spanish moss ferns (more suited to whistlers?) some i wonder if worth a try?? bamboo phormiums (flax) juncus i need more ideas cletus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 The only thing is that I was thinking of have a substrate covering the bottom this time, so not sure how to stop that getting to the pump, and blocking it, and allow access for maintenance (perhaps a reservoir pond at the back of the terrarium....). cover pump in a stocking, or even better some fine white fabric. helps to prevent spray bar or misters getting clogged up aswel as the pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 the foggers work great just a few precautions though first is price they are all made by 1 company in china so there is no need to go buy a $110 exoterra one thinking it will be more suitable or last longer than a $12 ebay one as they are identical (except some have led lights etc) its just packaging that is different and doesnt justify the huge price differences secondly the depth of the wate needs to be at least 3cm over the top of the unit more than 4cm over the top and the unit puts out a lot less fog any less and the unit will not work due to the sensor switch also it needs to be hidden from the frogs so that they cannot sit directly on top of it as it uses ultrasonic vibrations to create the fog these may be harmful . i simply built up a slate cave around it and the fog escaped thruogh the gaps next thing is heat these will heat the water if left on fro long periods of time considering that the amount of water in a frog tank is likly to be small it may heat up to 30 degs easily so best to figure it out and turn on occaisionaly or have operating on a timer at intervals during the day the brass coloured disc on top of the unit will wear out with time and can be replaced with spares from ebay this is due to minerals in the water its a case of put up with it as you cant really use distilled water in the tank however another option which is likely more benefical to plant life and perhaps safer to livestock . is so mount the unit in a small conatiner above the terrarium (needs to have mesh lid) id recommend an icecream container with the lid and a 2cmx8cm horizontal slot cut out 1 cm above the water level the lid is to stop splashes as the unit spalshes a bit of water the slot will let the fog cascade down into the tank . the advantages of this are that you can use distilled water (or pure dew $6 10l at the warehouse) which will prolong the life of the unit. also the fog will have a better contact with plants as it will be spread thru the whole tank rather than sitting a few cmm above the water level As for plants to add to the above list ficus pumilia(often availible as a baby houseplant) ivy ficus (think the small trees with twisted narly trunks) peace lily (i have mine sitting in water growing well) also go to your local nursery and raid the marginal pond plants tub as if will have some aquarium species grown emersed and will be suitable to plant directly in the water with foliage above water another thing with plants its advisable to remove potting mix from around the plant and use seed raising mix instead as potting mix conatins fertilislers which may be harmful to frogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 champion, thanks spoon the ficus pumilia is a goody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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