BikBok Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 to get red tux offspring? I've got a thread in diseases because i ended up accidentally buying a male tuxedo with a bent spine that swims kind of wobbly. But he has a lovely big red tail. I bought it sight unseen and hubby picked it up for me on the way home from work. The fish is currently separated from any females. I wasn't going to breed from him because of the deformity but am having trouble finding a nice red tail tuxedo that i can breed from. So thinking about putting him with one of my girls in the hopes of getting a nice red tux boy. My girls are: yellow tail tuxedo, goldens, and a grey with a tail that looks fluoro/neon blue. Would any of these give me a red tail boy? thanks for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 oh I also have one other tux girl with plain tail but she hasn't had fry for several months now so not sure she is still viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Try all of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesarz Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 The best bet to have a Red Tux offpring is with the fluoro/neon blue tux female, you will get good red tux as well as neon blue tux. The tux girl with plain tail will give you red tux as well but not as good as with the neon blue, the others will give you a dull red tux, anyways as what SamH says,there is no harm in trying them all. You mentioned that you wanted big tail fin, the only one that will give good big tail in the first generation is the female with the widest tail, so choose that one whichever it is. Depending on how bent he is, he might not be able to do the job. Is he bent down because the tail is heavy or does he have a crooked spine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thanks Cesarz very informative. I will try him with one at a time as I don't want him in the main tank and end up with a whole heap of little crooked fish lol. His spine is not grossly bent but enough to notice that it's not straight. looks like a little humpback. The wobbly swimming is also noticeable. But he swims fast and I did have him in the main tank for a day and he had no problems chasing and mating with a golden guppy he took a liking to. (she belongs to my snakeskin so he's not allowed her!!) Thanks for your help. Will be intersting to see how it all pans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesarz Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 His spine is not grossly bent but enough to notice that it's not straight. looks like a little humpback. He is okey to use as a breeder then, he is like that due to his large tail, try choosing the female with the thickest peduncle so that the next generation is strong enough to carry the tail horizontally and not get dragged by it which results in this kind of bent spine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 well we have decided to take him back to the breeder and keep lookign around for a red tux elsewhere. Will just be easier starting with a straight back! Just wondering though, what would my yellow tail tux and neon blue female produce? Could I get neon tuxedos from that mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I used to breed the red tux years ago and found that a femle that is from red tux with a good sized peduncle and no black in the tail was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesarz Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 well we have decided to take him back to the breeder and keep lookign around for a red tux elsewhere. Will just be easier starting with a straight back! Just wondering though, what would my yellow tail tux and neon blue female produce? Could I get neon tuxedos from that mix? Yep, you'll get Neon Blue tux and Yellow tux as well. Also, yes better to start with stock that do not have any defects. These are my young Red Tux. I used the better shaped male on the left and and tried to get rid of the black specks on the tail and add red on the dorsal, not much luck with his offspring and had to use the other male (the one on the right) whose characteristics are already fixed and had a better result, so if you want to breed to a certain look or standard, start with one that is really close to what you want to achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted November 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 thanks cesarz the one I have that's going back tomorrow is similar to your one on left ( with a humpback of course) but he has black side fins and his tail is full red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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