Whiskas Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Is this fella a balloon ram or a normal? http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2790510671_a68377b48e.jpg?v=0 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/2790878861_d133e1e6cf.jpg?v=0 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3067/2791723100_11620158d6.jpg?v=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Is this fella a balloon ram or a normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Balloon ram.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Looks in between to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Yeah thats what I was thinking but wasn't sure if they could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskas Posted August 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Thanx Olly for putting the pics up Yeah he looked a lil in-between to me too so thought i would put it to you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskas Posted August 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 anyone else with any opinions...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 can not tell from pics but possibly normal with bloat or dropsey as it does not look the right shape for a balloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 To me if its not normal which this one isn't then its a balloon ram, maybe this one showed varying degree's of deformaties to some of the others around, but bottom line its a balloon ram. Just for comparason this is my normal gold that I used to have.. Compare it to these and it is very obviously balloon. I doubt even a normal with bloat would get that deformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 the reason i thought dropsey was because 1 of my rams got it and looked pretty much the same but the head was slightly different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskas Posted August 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 k, thanx. Ryanjury's does seem to be more streamlined. So how do you end up with a balloon ram like my mums? Is it just too much inbreeding? And is it inbreeding to get the smaller size or the brighter colours? Cos mums appears to be a brighter yellow than the one ryanjury posted, which is why i ask. Ryanjury's with the long fins, is pretty cool but is it considered "normal"? (this is not an insult, just wondering) Is it possible to breed the ballon shape out? Back to a more normal shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 I don't know where they come.. My guess is that someone somewhere was breeding them and got a mutated one come out and then just bred for that mutation until it bred true, people will breed whatever will sell.. Colours are usually the same between the balloon's and normals.. My one was what I would call a normal long finned gold.. It is probably possible to breed the balloon shape out, but probably not practical as it would probably take many many years and alot of breeding to get there.. I believe (if they're not infertile) that balloon's will produce balloon offspring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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