chimera Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 i want to get new sand for the new tank. where's the best place to source this from? is it simply a matter of washing it and putting it in? what grain is best suited? i hear about 1/2" deep is typically about right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 on RC the other day i saw a guys tank setup with out sand, and it looked awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 no substrate, why would you not put a substrate in, the ocean has a substrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 the ocean has allot of things that fish tanks dont have last time i checked there wasnt a little glass container covering the beach either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 The substrate is important as all your small snails , copods etc will need it to feed . why have no substrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 i guess its up to everyone what they want in their tank and such. i have a sand bed and crushed coral for my substrate becuase i want a natural look and i think it will contribute to my water conditions (going for the most natural environment possible) but if your making a tank purely for its aesthetic value then you may not want a substrate. i thought it looked really nice, it did look kindof clinical but i found it really nice to look at (not cluttered and very open) i tried to find the picture but cant see it any where maybe it was on ultimatereef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Here is a tank with no substrate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted July 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 coolish,... but too plastic/fake looking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 The 'berlin' method has no substrate. Just rock and skimmer. Sand is only required for aesthetics. Michael Moore (the RC Married with children guy) doesn't use sand and his tank is a stunner. Don't use sand in an acrillic tank. You will get life with a sand bed as Alois say, so there is a plus. I have read lots about substrates. Either use less than 2 inches, more than 8 inches or none. anything inbetween will be a 'shit trap'. Some people vacum there gravel, I havn't in 18 months, without problem and my tank is clean. I think this is more to do with the aggressive water flow than the sand though. substrate is a funny thing, I suspect that no matter what you do it will be wrong. FYI for my new tank I am using a 2inch bed. I think a tank looks better with it than without it. I dont' belive a DSB is worth the risk. 1 inches works for me now, so I am just going to do the same. Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted July 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 agreed pies. back to my original questions: where's the best place to source this from? is it simply a matter of washing it and putting it in? what grain is best suited? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 come on brendan.......post a pic pleeeeeeeeeeease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Its coral sand, get it from anywhere you can get it from. I quickly rinced mine but wanted to keep the fine dusty stuff too. Water was very merky for 1 day, was crystal clean when I got up the next day. Mixed grain, doesn't really matter. I am using 2mm in my tank, 2-4 on the coral growout tank. Don't think its a big deal really. I am going to buy 2mm again. Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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