Dixon1990 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I have just recieved a nutrafin co2 setup from Naz Nomad(thanks) and it comes with one more packet of Stabilizer and activator, What else do i mix with this to make it work and how much? Also what is this?It cam with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinsonMassif Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 http://www.hagen.com/pdf/aquatic/CO2_Manual.pdf Ummm did you think to google instructions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 The instructions are on the canister but i have read that there are better recipes than what they actually tell you to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 So, does anyone know what the thing in the picture is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Just looks like a CO2 diffuser of some sort. Its on the end of the line, thus CO2 makes its exit there lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Thanks, So what Should i mix in my canister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 search the forums for "diy co2" there are some standard recipes floating around. Or google for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I just found out the eheim thing is a airstone, Can i still use this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 If the Co2 comes out of it, yes. If not, no! Well, technically, I think the above is incorrect. The purpose of the Nutrifin ladder or a diffuser is to increase the amount of contact the Co2 has with the water, therefore disapating it more efficiently into your water, so if the airstone just lets out big bubbles into the watercolumn it's probably no better than just having the tube releasing the Co2 straight into the water. If you have the Nutrifin ladder, you will notice that the bubbles get smaller as they reach the top of the ladder because of the distance/time they have taken to travel up to the top, increasing the contact time with the water. A diffuser breaks the Co2 into tiny bubbles that are more easily absorbed into the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Blue Dalmation Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 the recipe i use works well, fill up to first mark with sugar, add one of each sachet then fill to second mark with luke warm water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I think we used the same amount of sugar and half a teaspoon of Elfin Instant Dry Yeast and a small pinch of baking soda (can't remember what the baking soda was for.) Fill it up with luke warm water to top mark and stir with a chopstick! Oh, and make sure you do the top up real tight, or the Co2 will leak out around the screw top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I set it up 30min ago with the one SBD uses(the same as on the bottle) and nothings happening :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Patience, Grasshopper, patience... Can take a couple of hours or more to get going. We also used to wrap our bottle thingy up in wadding or filter floss and put it in a poly box with a hole in the top for the airline to come out of to keep it warm, especially in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Patience, Grasshopper, patience... Zev :lol: :lol: :lol: Dixon - did you read the instruction manual posted for you at ALL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naz_Nomad Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 The 'thing' is the CO2 diffuser I used, I found it a lot less obvious than the one in the pack which is a huge ladder thing, which I have since lost. Just stick it in the water on the end of the CO2 line and make sure it isn't screwed too tight. The recipe they include in the pack is the two little packets in the set. Just add them to tepid water for CO2. Be careful you don't put too much water in or there will be white scum down your pipe. Personally I found it better to use about 1/4 cup of sugar, 1/3 bottle of tepid water, dissolve well, add half a teaspoon of the active yeast I also sent in the bottle and stir well. That made CO2 for about five days in a steady stream from that diffuser. It takes a few hours for the CO2 to start bubbling. Fist time you make a mixture, keep an eye on the pH as CO2 lowers it quickly if you're too generous, and watch out for yeasty scum down the pipe - turns the water white and plummets the pH. Trust me, I have experience with this! Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naz_Nomad Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I just found out the eheim thing is a airstone, Can i still use this? Yeah, I called it a diffuser as it had the excellent property of breaking the bubbles down into right tiny little ones whereas the ladder was letting huge bubbles up it's length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Blue Dalmation Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 yeah it says on the packet it can take up to 24 hours to work at full potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 And always put the bottle somewhere lower than the tank, in case it gets knocked over and starts syphoning into your tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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