Dixon1990 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 What do yous think about tanks like these? http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=132714&st=0&start=0 Would they be hard to maintain with a pico skimmer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 In a word, yes. Little marine tanks require expert knowledge and a great deal of maintenance in return for a very small amount of enjoyment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Just wondering, what exactly is it that makes it difficult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Because they are small, there is a proportionately smaller margin for error, and marine already has a tiny margin for error as it is. They are also far more complex than freshwater, so there is more to go wrong as well. They really are not a great idea unless you know exactly what you are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 absolutley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I have noticed that some of the most successful picos are those that belong to people who have successful larger tanks. I think Melev was doing water changes in his pico with water from an established larger tank, therefore all the water parameters are correct every time he swapped the water out, no need to fiddle with chems/phosphate removers/salinity etc for a small amount of water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I would setup a prober size marine tank if i could,but i can and am not allowed. So i geuss i cant have any marine tank at all then. :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Blue Dalmation Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 why not compromise and set up a brackish? archers are so cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I would love to have a setup with archer f8 puffer and bumble bee gobies but realy dont have room,archer get big dont they? The reason i wanted a pico was because i have a spare 35L tank and i really like the look of all corals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 bumble bees do better in a species only tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 ohk.How many L per bumblebee approx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Dixon I'm assuming you're not allowed to have a big one because of cost and size? What is the maximum size you are allowed and what is the maximum budget? Tell us that and we can tell you what you can do, or wether it can be done at all. All the above advice is right on the mark. It is hard especially when starting to have a proper marine tank in a tiny tank, for a lot of reasons. However if you were prepared to have no fish, it would be possible to run a tank even only 35 litres, with just some hardy corals such as zooathids and mushrooms. You should still have some kind of skimmer, but a very basic one would do if you had no fish. But the cost, and skill level required, will increase many multiples if you attempted to have anything in the tank that needs feeding, such as fish, shrimps, or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 So i could probably use the 35L if i only have liverrock and a couple corals of some sort and the skimmer? Heres the skimmer,its a diy one that looks like it works from the video. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&c ... bMN9uOIXyA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Well that is a VERY weak skimmer. The thing is if you are not adding any food to the tank you can get away with less of a skimmer because there is not much to take out but i think that one might be not enough even in those circumstances. To get an idea of the kind of bubble action you might want check this video. (even though the guy filmed it sideways :roll: ). You could maybe make the one in your first video perform better by putting a powerful airpump on it? I don't know. Anyhow if you can get the skimmer sorted the next main hurdle would be correct lighting, for the kind of corals you would have, in a 35 litre, you will want 20 or so watts of marine grade light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 What exactly does the algae from the top link do? and can we get it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 The idea of that algae is that it will grow & use anything in the water that algae needs, so that nuisance algae can't grow in the rest of the tank. You can get similar algaes here. You harvest some of the algae as it grows to give room for it to keep growing. That is the theory. The practice is not always quite so straight forward, ie, it will not always totally eradicate all other algae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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