Cookieskennels Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 i have 5 gold fish (small) and 2 minnows. 1 tree plant and a tunnel. and snails lol. am wanting to knw what elce can i put in the tank? like fish wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 sell the fish and buy a heater and go tropical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookieskennels Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 that tropicals are to costly and that the fish get sick easy also not all tropicals will live together, lol, i also dont want to sell my pretty fish..... Is there no other fish i can put in the tank?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimebag Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 there are heaps of tropicals that are cheap, hardy, and will live happily together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookieskennels Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 could someone give me some names of ones that are cheap and will live 2getha please? Also am i able to have the tank at a temp that the cold water fish can survive to? its quite hot lately so i would have to turn the heater up for the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitzy Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I seen some one on tm selling cold water guppies but your goldfish might eat them im really not sure, Maybe some different types of gold fish like orandas or bubble eyes sorry not sure what they called , fantails you can get some pretty nice gold fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookieskennels Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 orandas and a bubble/google eyed fish the others are placid goldfish. thanks for that i will go have a look now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 With 5 goldfish in the tank already you will be overstocked once they grow. Do not add any more fish. How many litres does the tank hold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookieskennels Posted March 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 um tank holds nearly 100 ltrs lol so ive got room for a few more, its a really tall tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 100Ltrs is small for a tank, and 5 goldfish WILL outgrow it in no time. The tank being tall means it has less surface area than a short 100Ltr tank would, so can hold even less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 5 x goldfish at 20-30cm's which is how big they will grow is too big for your tank sorry to say also agreed with evil a tall tank is worse for stocking than a long tank as the surface area is smaller.. Yes the petshop or your friends may stick 3 goldfish in a tiny bowl but that is just cruel and here we try and do whats best for the fish and educate people If you want lots of fish setup a pond or bathtub outside for your goldies and go tropical you can do a nice number of smaller fish in your tank.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Or you can do a coldwater indoor aquarium with Leopardfish, WCMMs, guppies, many kinds of danios (including celestial pearl danios), bristlenoses, American flag killiefish and probably a lot more types of killies as well. Heaps of nice coldwater plants including Glosso which is a NZ native and a BEAUTIFUL plant highly sought over worldwide (google it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookieskennels Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 sorry guys just asked a friend and she laughed at me when i said 100ltrs she says it holds WAY more than that she things its almost a 400-500 ltrs, sorry i dont know lol. thanks for the info looking up those fish and plant now. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitzy Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I would so go tropical with that many litres , so many cool tropical fish out there , and cheap too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Do you have the dimensions of the tank? Unless your tank is pretty much a cube (80x80x80), I cannot see how the tank volume can be 400 to 500 Litres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookieskennels Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 35 inches long, 29 inches depth and 20 inches wide. how much would this hold? it was specially made to sit on a old computer desk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikekrull Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 With all this talk of overstocking with goldfish, how many of you actually have foot-long goldfish in your tanks? I've never seen one grow that big in a tank, and would say that even a 100L tank is plenty of space for a few small goldies - obviously you cross the new tank bridge when you come to it. Do you all really make tank size decisions based on the adult size of your fish when adulthood is 5-20 years away? Is it really realistic to devote > 400L to a single inch-long comet from the petshop on the assumption that it will reach 30cm in length over the next 20 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 35 inches long, 29 inches depth and 20 inches wide. how much would this hold? it was specially made to sit on a old computer desk Converts to 89cm wide, 73.5cm deep and 51cm wide - 333L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 You bet me to it BlueandKim :lol: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookieskennels Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 so 333ltrs is quite alot lol no wonder it took me awhile to fill lol. so ruffly how many fish could i have in there, not going tropical just yet lol. maybe once i move to the farm and start working there, Kim i cant find anyone selling any of those fish cheap and have to ring LFS tomorrow and ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookieskennels Posted March 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 bumping lol. :bounce: i have added a blackmore and a Lionhead. another plant and a clam air ornament. Also have given my axolotl 2 tadpoles in his tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 With all this talk of overstocking with goldfish, how many of you actually have foot-long goldfish in your tanks? I've never seen one grow that big in a tank, and would say that even a 100L tank is plenty of space for a few small goldies - obviously you cross the new tank bridge when you come to it. Yea sure, 5 small goldfish will live in a 100L tank when small, but if you just wait until they outgrow the tank, they will get stunted. People put large goldfish into ponds, thats why you dont see them much. also, in a tank they wouldnt grow that big, because of the whole stunting issue..... Do you all really make tank size decisions based on the adult size of your fish when adulthood is 5-20 years away? YES, you do. well, at least you should, but some people know better :roll: You seem to not realy know exactly what you are talking about here, so best to not dig yourself into a hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Kim i cant find anyone selling any of those fish cheap and have to ring LFS tomorrow and ask. It's Blue, actually. Hutt Pet Centre in Lower Hutt sells many danios and other species for very low prices. WCMMs are $4 and danios are generally $3 each or 10 for $25. Prices vary with availablility and you should always visually inspect your fish for disease before purchasing, like anywhere else. That;s about as cheap as prices get for fish since someone has to breed and feed them somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikekrull Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 So, evilkineivel, it is indeed your position that a single 1 inch goldfish in a 100L tank is overstocking? That anybody with 5 goldfish in a tank less than about 2000 litres is doing something wrong? Because it seems to me thats absolutely absurd. Obviously when the fish grows larger its going to need a bigger tank, but why does that make the decision to house the fish in a smaller tank while it does not require the space wrong? You accuse me of not knowing what i'm talking about, but i've quite successfully kept fish for years, goldfish and tropical - its only because i'm returning to the hobby after a long break that i'm posting in the beginners section. If your tank is of sufficient size to maintain water quality, and have plenty of space for the fishes' dimensions and behaviour, whats the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Hi Ike, I think the clash with evil is just a misunderstanding. When dealing with tropical fish it's very common to see a person trying to raise a large fish (pacu, giant gourami, ornate birchir, arowana) in a small-ish tank and soon find the need to either part with the fish or jump through hoops trying to get a bigger aquarium. Very often these fish end up on the losing side due to inadequate preparation by the owner. Goldfish are commonly kept in tiny tanks and soon outgrow them. The problem is the owners still seem to think that 3 or 4 adult comets are fine in a 2 foot tank even though they can hardly move. It's this mentality that we try and discourage on the forums and education for prevention is generally the mindset rather than "trashing the noob" Welcome to the forums and we look forward to you sharing your opinions! Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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