vavoli Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Hey folks, I recently got 2 blackmoore's to add to my 65L goldie tank. I realised once i'd put them into my tank they had a few white spots on their tails! So the next day i got some white spot treatment and put that in, then put some more in a few days later (like it says to on the bottle..) I went away for 2 nights and came back to my goldfish looking like they're rotting! Two of the comets tails look like they have fin rot.. Their tails are only half there and the bone things in their tails just look like hairs now with no ...fin inbetween? Also their bodies are covered in fluffy yuk stuff. All the goldfish have weird white stuff on their tails and bodies and now the blackmoore's are almost healed. They're also acting really weirdly but i guess they're just itchy or something? I did about a 70% water change today to try and get rid of some of the old treatment. Is this just REALLY bad white spot? Or is it REALLY bad fin rot? Why would it have got so bad in only 3 days? Also, should i keep using white spot cure or melafix? Appologies for dumb questions but any help much appreciated!! xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Post a pic. I would guess fin and tail rot. Don't think white spot cure will work. Keep the water clean with more WC and add some salt. ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Hi Vavoli Finrot can get really bad in only a matter of days, the white bones are the rays of the fins, i had a discus with quite bad finrot exposing the rays of the fins, however the tissue fully recovered with treatment. I suggest you treat with furan-2 which is anti anti-bacterial, follow the instructions, including the water changes between treatments. How many goldfish are in the 65L tank? the finrot may be occuring due to bacterial buildup due to overcrowding. Was someone feeding the fish while you were away? Excess food could have also caused the problem. I would not use the melafix (just my opinion) and instead use the furan-2. However if you do, you will need to do a large water change and discontinue the whitespot treatment so that you are not mixing meds. hope they get better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavoli Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 There's now 2 tiny blackmoore's, 1 5cm fantail and 3 4cm comets... I doubt it's over-crowding as i had 4 comets and 1 fantail in a 29L tank for a while until i put my tropicals into their bigger tank... I just noticed a couple of little "salt" lookin spots on the blackmoore... Then it was just incredible when i got back... They all look like mouldy rotting fish.. Really quite grose >< Ok i'll have to get the Furan but i can't get it until Friday Will they die if i don't get it until then? Yea they all got fed once while away by someone who has no idea about anything fishy, but when i cleaned tank today there wasn't excess food in the stones. Really sad to see them looking like this =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavoli Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I'll put a piccy up tomorrow when i get the camera ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 goldfish are pretty hardy, if you keep changing the water until you get the furan 2 i think they should be ok. my discus that had it lost around 1cm of fin off the pectoral fins and survived ok and they can be quite sensitive fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 make a salt bath and i catch the fish in your net and useing a eye dropper treat the area. and put back in to your tank two table spoon of salt per lirte of water. that what i do when fin rot and i use this method on wounds ect, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavoli Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 So i basically just squirt the salt water onto the fish? one of them is covered in white stuff from head to bum... completely covered. so i'd have to pour it over him? haha >< shouldn't laugh, poor thing. Ok thanks heaps i'll put some rock salt in there tomorrow after i do another water change as there's whitespot stuff in there at the moment. I'll still post a picture tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 you can use a ice cream container make up the salt mixure and put the fish in and leave him in there for a couple of minnites or intill it makes it uncomforatble for the fish and put him back into your tank.as the salt bath kill the micorginism,it dose work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavoli Posted February 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Oh right, that makes more sense. I will do that, thank you ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Make sure you keep us updated! Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavoli Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Ok here we go, i got some Furan 2 today after all so i'll put that in shortly and see how we go. So, is this white spot or fin rot? Or both?? This is the one that's got it the worst but the other comets have the same symptoms too but their tails aren't as bad 0.0 Mr. Fantail has some scales missing at the base of his tail and has the fuzzy white getting worse by the day on his tail. This is their house. Plenty of plants, 500L/ph filter and some nice bubbles too, so i don't think that's the problem >< Tyvm x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 definitely finrot, but finrot can occur as a secondary infection. Whitespot would appear as very small dots like grains of salt not large white patches. Treat with the furan and hopefully it should come right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vavoli Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I see! That will be why the blackmoore's white spots have gone and the goldfish have got something different. Thanks heaps! Will see how we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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