cichlid7 Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 i am planing on getting a tank made sometime in the next couple of months. Tank Size: 2400 x 750 x 600mm (L x W x H) What would be the best way to filter it. THE FISH I was thinking Big fish what would be good with a couple of silver aro's and can a jardini (sp?) live with the silvers BGK or clown knife 4 Silver dollars Gold spot pleco What other cool and big fish can live with these fish in a tank this size Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia-15 Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 aro, bichir, big ciclids... (and what i saw today at malay fish shop- aaa grade golds, aba aba, endis, pikes, rtc, shovelnose cats, gars etc etc... omg ive lost faith in nz fish varieties) such a big tank? hmmmm, SUMP SUMP SUMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 prfft, this is in the wrong section, should be in "Saltwater" Shoal of clown loaches Don't put in the dollars and have a planted tank, giant danios should be able to run OK, silver sharks, same deal. Get either BGK or clown, nice eel , from what i've read Jardini can be outright nasty. DATS. (don't destroy plants ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 That is one big tank! Don't forget pics when you get it. Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Jardini's can be nasty and the majority of people who have kept them recommed them only as a single-specimen fish. You could try it, but monitor it very closely. If you want plants and big fish it could be difficult, as a lot of big fish need space to swim or are just too clumsy. Jansens in Silverdale had a nice display tank that was planted and had a large asian aro and a big bichir (possibly congicus?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Don't put in the dollars and have a planted tank Where would he put my babies then!!!??? a big school of dollars in a monster tank like that would be a sight to behold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 sump would be best to filter it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 im having trouble with sumps at the moment i flooded my fish room 5 times in the last couple of weeks the last time was about 150L all over the floor i was thinking about the FX5 as that would make it alot easier for water changes. i want a silver aro or 2 and i already have a planted tank and im setting up a marine at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 im having trouble with sumps at the moment i flooded my fish room 5 times in the last couple of weeks the last time was about 150L all over the floor What kind of trouble, leaky plumbing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 no the sump keeps overflowing or emptying to quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 with the Jardini i was offered it by a mate for $250 its 40cm long its such a cool fish. i can have it when ever i want it could be tomorrow aor 3 years time its mine when i want it 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Thats a good deal with the jar!! I'm not quite sure about the sump problem, the only thing I can think of is that its too small for the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 the tank is 500L and a 90L sump i have stopped the sump and replaced it with a couple of canister filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 How is the overflow set up? I've never overflowed any of my sumps. With the pump off I usually fill the tank until the water just begins to flow over the overflow, then fill the sump up to the highest level I'm happy with (so it won't over-flow if the power goes off) and mark it on the side of the sump as "max off". Then turn the pump on and the tank should fill and overflow, and once the water has reached its normal running height in the tank you can mark the water level in the sump as "max on". As long as the water level isn't above either of these marks it shouldn't over flow the sump. The only two senarios I can think of that would overflow the sump are; 1. There isn't enough capacity in the sump to take the overflow when the pump is turned off, either from the sump being too small or too full. If you follow the above process to set it up, you'll know if its too small as there won't be enough water in the sump to fill the tank to the necessary level and the pump will start sucking air. 2. The seal around the glass overflow leaks so even whent he pump is switched off the water from the tank drains into the sump. I have had this happen to me once and it wasn't good... Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Depends what kind of overflow you have. if you have a durso or a full syphon it may not be setup correctly. if you just have a normal, noisy overflow pipe that takes the water, then i cant see what the problem would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 when i set up the tank it was running fine for 2 or 3 months then it started to fill up the main tank too fast so the pump was emptying the sump then then it changed and the pump wasn't quick enough to pump the water back up into the main tank . i think it might have something to do with it being in a planted tank because some of the leaves that get broken off get caught around the intake pipe which reduces the flow into the sump. so what i did was lower the output on the pump and then it was working fine for 5 days then the leaves must have come free and the flow picked up again and flooded it. That is what i think because my other sump on the 600L cichlid tank has been working fine since i set it up about 5 months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 this tank is going to be inside so i want the filter to be very quiet and i find sumps to be very loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 What kind of overflow is it, a box/triangle in the corner, a hole drilled straight in the back of the tank with a strainer over it, or a hang-over-the-back type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 sump is best for that i reckon, cheapest too! but if you have the cash, then et two fx5s. should uffice. in theory, 1 fx5 should filter that tank. depending on how many fish. sump you get such value for money, you can put really nasty huge return pumps, and filters way better than any canister! its like a giant canister:D i just bought a tank like that. 2400x800x600h im putting a silver aro, CK, RCK, African black knife, 2 big dats i just bought, 2 silver dollars, spotten metynis, parrot cichlid, pleco, one geophagus, 2 cigar sharks, 2 appolo sharks, 1 giant gourami (golden) predator tank! maybe a jag, i like them i really do i would say that 60% of people owing a jardinii say alone or only ground dwelers, i have seen videos, and spoken to people with jardinii in a tank with silvers, reds and asians, and other fish,no problems. dependson the jardinii. jardinii tends to be pick on who it picks on, if it doesnt like one fish, it will irritate it. it doesnt like 1 of my silver dollars but it leaves the other one alone. it ignores flagtail, tinfoil barbs and a spotten metynis completely. so im gonna try the borneo tigers , if it doesnt work out you just move them. im actually considering putting my jardinii into the 8 foot i got when its up and running after all the ther fish has settled in. perhaps if its over whelmed with other aggressive fish, this will subdue its character and be more placid.... maybe:D i say put 3 silvers:D or just one, and put other stuff in there. big stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mankeycow Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 man i wish i had a tank that big you should go saltwater it has much cooler fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesejawa Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 lol you have had fish for 5 days and already want to go marine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 man i wish i had a tank that big you should go saltwater it has much cooler fish Prettier colours yeah, cooler? hmm, personal preference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 yeah, i have a marine now, i actually still prefer freshwater. something about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Sumps ARE quiet. You need to make sure that the overflow is as close to the top of the weir as possible (its where most of the noise comes from), using the tap, cut down the amount of air slightly and that will reduce the noise. With the water coming from the overflow, you ideally want to have a compartment that can hold no more than about 35-40L for the pump, just get a cheap UPS so that if the power does cut the pump will keep running for at least a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 With the water coming from the overflow, you ideally want to have a compartment that can hold no more than about 35-40L for the pump Why is that? IMO one of the big benefits of a sump is the increased volume of water in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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