smcoleman Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 hi guys i brought some more guppys this week from a pet shop. i put them in a quarratine tank with some other fish i brought but i notice that one of the guppys had like a red worm hanging out its bottom can any one tell me wot it is i took it out the tank stright away im worried i may an infected the other fish wot product do i use to treat the rest of the tank to much sure they r safe an where do i buy it from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slevin12 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 it may be going to the toilet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcoleman Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 that fish is dead now as i killed it mate i just wanna treat the tank to make sure i dont get anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Hope this helps.. http://albertaaquatica.com/index.php?sh ... id=2136617 http://www.awforum.net/angelfish/topic. ... callamanus Its called callamanus I think that metro and prazi can kill it so would try that.. I found the info by searching.. http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q= ... arch&meta= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kd123 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I think that may have been a bit over reactive..... if i was to do the same thing everytime I saw a red thing hanging from a fish then almost all of them would be dead by now!! Or i would have needed to treat the whole tank load with prazi several times over. What i have learnt from advice on this forum is to wait and observe.... often what i see as a problem actually is just a normal process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Obviously Steves been around fish long enough to know that the fish isn't just doing a red poo... It isn't normal for red things to be hanging out fishes anus's so it is not over reactive to treat the worms (or kill off the heavily infected fish) before they infect and kill all of your fish especially if you run a large fishroom with alot of livestock. I do agree sometimes people are a bit over reactive especially with fish but IMO in my fishroom I always jump on any diseases and don't just try and wait it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcoleman Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 thanks Ryan ill try that I'm just lucky its in my quaritine tank in the house an not int the fish room but id still like to treat all my tanks now just to make sure i dont have it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I would dose the water in the affected tank and also give medicated food, and just use medicated food in all the other tanks you would hate to think the cost of dosing the water in all your tanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kd123 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Obviously Steves been around fish long enough to know that the fish isn't just doing a red poo... Sorry but this was not obvious to me... :-? I just point out that, from the perspective of a recent newcomer to this forum and fish keeping, if I was to do what you both are suggesting each time i see something red hanging from the anus of a fish then most of my fish would be dead or i would have given up because of the cost and time treating the tanks. You may know that 'steve' has been around long enough but i have never seen anything he has posted before nor have any idea that his name is steve. I am grateful for the help and info i have received on this forum and am aware of just how easy it is to panic when one is new to this game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Sorry just because I know Steve doesn't mean you do.. If you did ever want to know how long someones been around I know its a fairly useless indication but have a look how long they've been a member and how many posts they have gives you some idea.. And I still disagree with you I don't think there are many times the red things would be normal, yes sometimes your fish do red poo's when you've been feeding red food, but the poo is different, the red things were referring to are like little tiny threads and are definitely not normal. I guess its hard to understand if you haven't seen them, they also go in and out of the fish because they're alive and eating it from the inside out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcoleman Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 hi ryan where do u get that stuff from i tryed a couple of places an had no luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 The metro? I got mine from the vets, went in and ask for the full name (I cant spell it) they gave me Trichozole, it is also known as flagyl.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcoleman Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 sweet ill try that mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 nup, for cammalanus get a bird wormer called aviverm (should be available through your vets) as it will work good as (i've never heard of anyone using metro. Aviverm is levamisole (which is the reccomended treatment for cammalanus) and it worked very well for me Remember, when you do a treatment, you need to do a 90% water change first, making sure you gravel syphon EVERY part of the gravel in the tank, then add the reccomended dosage, which i cant remember off the top of my head, but i will find out in a sec All the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Heres a good thread about it http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/cammal ... 24520.html Dosage is 1ml per 22L of water, BUT it is a very gentle med, and will not harm your fish if you overdose it (better to overdose than underdose) All it will do to your fish is give them diarrhea, but thats no biggy. Leave the first dose in for 48 hours, and then do another 90% water change, once again gravel vacuuming the whole tank. Do another treatment the same as the first two weeks later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcoleman Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 evil where do u get levamisole from has ive rung a couple of vets but they r just dum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 I was told the metro works.. But that sounds like a plan though I have no idea where to get that from sorry man.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 levemisole works better. Sharn use to be able to get it but she is in aussie now (i think). Maybe evil can get some for you. You can try the vet at Jansen (Botany) or get the bird wormer from next door. ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Sharn and i both got ours from our local vet. Ask for Aviverm If you have no success i will go have a look at our vet to see if they have any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Is the product top left of the page what your after? http://www.hippo.co.nz/1884,0,0.mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcoleman Posted January 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 thanks guys im going to buy that stuff today an try it thank u for all ur help an ill let u know the out come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Is the product top left of the page what your after? http://www.hippo.co.nz/1884,0,0.mel Thats the one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEd Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I hope you let the Pet Shop you got the guppies off know of your plight as I would expect they would at least give you the parasite killer (or at the very least at cost) considering the problem they have sold you. Of coarse they in turn can let the breeder know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kd123 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Can aviverm be used to treat all types of worms in fish or only cammalanus? The metro was going to cost a huge amount to treat a 140 litre when calculated by the vet i called and she wanted to do a postmortum or at least see the fish concerned before giving it. How often should fish be treated for worms? Cats and dogs are treated regularly. Is it the same for fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Unsure what worms it can be used for.. But metro shouldn't cost that much? I think I paid less than $1 for a tab and one tab does 40 litres so your looking at 3.5 per day so probably around $15 to treat your tank? And if your vet charges you a dispensing fee it would add $5 but that should be max I would contact another vet, especially if they want to see the fish when they probably know nothing about it.. And I don't think fish need worming regularly as they're in a fairly closed environment, maybe if your introducing new fish regularly and also feeding live food from outside you have the potential to introduce worms.. And you would like to think the petshop would help fixing the problem but who knows if they will, have you talked to them Steve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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