andyman98 Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 i saw it somewhere on here,sadly mine has got the infection/deasease thingy that makes her really fat with her scales sticking out.Three things 1.can i fix it? 2.is it contagous 3.If i have to kill her how do i do it in a "peaceful way" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Hi Andyman, Sounds like Dropsy, but I can't say I've ever seen a Cichlid suffering from that. More than likely it is bloat.. or full of eggs.. but you say the scales are protruding. 1/ Hopefully.. 2/ If it's bloat... no.. 3/ Forget three. Try a short bath in the following. One tablespoon of thoroughly mixed Epsom Salts in a gallon of water... or measure to suit your container... Don't dose the whole tank. Put the fish in there and leave for ten minutes, but remove if undue stress is seen. Repeat twice a day until improvement is seen. They also say that an increase in temp (29C) helps ease the bloat. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 nope, disagree Bill. That fish has dropsy, Cure :- - - Kill it Sorry about that, but it is not worth trying to save them. Apparently it is a kidney or liver malfunction. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 To kill it. Throw it hard onto the concrete floor. Sounds gruesome, but it is instantaneous. ?? 2, Don't risk the others in the tank. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 To kill it. Throw it hard onto the concrete floor. I had to do that with some neons It's not very nice though. They don't splatter everywhere but chucking something at the floor isn't what i'd call fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman98 Posted March 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 still not sure what to do will move the fish into a diffrent tank,is it worth trying the epsom salt thing,i'm pretty sure it isn't bloat as i've seen that before.would prefer not killing it but if i have to i might just do the old knife in the brain or whacktheshitout of it with a brick,i'm just worried i wouldn't throw the fish hard enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 No, put it out of it's misery. Sorry. If you smack it with a brick, put it in a couple of plastic bags so you dont get splattered Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Pretty quick to jump on the "Whackit Waggon" Alan without actually knowing all the facts, after all, it could be full of guppy fry that he has been feeding for all you know, or pellet food.. or.... I do however like yiour analogy of a ... what was it..? A "Cure".. Cure :- - - Kill it Quick, easy answer... "Out of sight, out of mind" "Any" fish (even a Convict) is worth at least "some" attempt to find out what is wrong with it, otherwise we would get nowhere in the hobby. (Just my thoughts, and no offence meant) If you "have" to dispose of the fish, then drop it in a plastic bag and swing it down quickly on a firm bench .. or the floor. (It pays to close the eyes and clench the teeth at this time)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 hey bill, nothing was said about it having eaten a gutful of fry, I'm sure it would have been. and if so the scales still don't stick out. I'd bet my fishroom on what it is. as for cichlids getting dropsy, I've seen that myself. I belong to a forum in USA (not that that is an end all) that has discussed this problem, and no-one 9incluing myself) had had a sucessful result, even if the initial problem went, the fish was still internally damaged. No offence taken you ol' phart William. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Dropsy isn't really a disease at all. It is actually a symptom itself. Because of this, the definite cause is unknown, so treatment is difficult. The majority of fish with this condition perish. A broad spectrum proprietary antibiotic such as nitrofurazone and furazolidone (Furan-2) coupled with the best possible water quality and food topdressed with kanamycin offers the best chance at treating the underlying illness. This is with thanks from AngieandAndrewsAquatics, thanks Andrew Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman98 Posted March 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 i have decided to put it out of it's misery today after school. thanks for all the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 I am curious. If you have a fish that is grossly swollen, surely its scales would stick out anyway, not necessarily because it had dropsy? The curve of the body would make them stand out wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 Not like that. They really stick out and for an inexperienced keeper that would be what was noticeable. That's why it's called "Pine-cone Disease" Andy, don't be offended please by the inexperienced bit. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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