cichlid7 Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 over the last 2 or 3 days my male discus has gone really dark and is just sitting in the back corner of my breeding tank the female in the same tank is fine. it looks like his tail is damaged and he has a mark on his side near the back he has also got very skinny i just caught him and put him in a tank of his own he didn't even try and swim away i got a few photos of him but my camera is not the best so the photos aren't that good. Please help me i don't know whats wrong this photo shows the mark just across and down from his tail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 The fish definately got Hex and you've left it way too late to treat. It also appears to have fin rot . To be frank, not worth saving (that's my opinion). I would put the fish out of it's misery. But if you want to treat thendo as follow Raise temp to 33 deg and make sure you have plenty of airations. Dose with Trichozole (Metro) 400mg per 40 ltrs water. Repeat daily after 50% WC for 10 days.(Same temp water as tank for WC) HTH, ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 ok where do i get Trichozole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 The Vet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 i think im going to need 1000mg per dose so will they let me have 10,000mg of it and do you know an approx price, do i just go in and say i need some of it or what?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Also what causes Hex Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Put the fish in a 2 feet tank with 40ltrs of water, a heater and an airstone. Don't worry about filter. The tablet comes in 200 and 400mg. Get the 400mg tablet. You only need 1 tab per dose in a 40 ltrs tank. Go to your vet and ask for 20 tab. Probably cost you $20-$30. Poor water quality and stress can contribute to the cause. The vet might charge you a consultation fee. ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 thank you very much i will go tomorrow and try and get some will they ask any questions about why i want it :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Tell them it's for treating your discus with intestinal flagelette if they ask. good luck, ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 ive just checked my spare tanks and don't have any suitable for 40L Ive got a 30L or i could lower the water in the tank he is in down to 20cm which will give 60L or should i try and get a 2 foot tank tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Lower the tank water . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 so will water lower than 20cm be alright for him I had a look at him this morning and he has fattened up quite a bit and is swimming around the tank quite lively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 How long have you had him. Looks like he's had it for a while. Ron's on the case only thing I can add is lower ph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 If you look from the front you will see that it has lost all muscle mass between the top of the eye behind its skull and the base of the fin - that is known as 'razorbacked', and once a Discus is in that condition it usually means its internal organs are pretty much gone too. Treating it with drugs is likely only to accelerate its demise (because they cause further stress to the fish, as well as the pathogen), so you should prepare yourself for the worst - your fish will not survive the course of treatment - it is simply too far gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 That is why I said I would put it out of it's misery (cull it) cos it's not worth saving. ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 is there no chance of it getting better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 its swimming around more than my other discus are and he has got his colour back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I think that is probably because it was / is the runt. Now that it is on its own and the others aren't hassling it, it will feel happier and display more colour, but it is on its last legs. You may be able to keep it a while in a seperate tank, but it really doesn't have too long. Its up to you what you do with it, but don't be too upset when it does go to the big ocean in the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 it was in the breeding tank with the female she is about 2cm bigger than him and they were getting on fine. So there is no way it will survive, even with the Trichozole treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 sorry about all the questions but i don't know much about Diseases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jn Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Don't worry about all the questions, I think apart from a few experts here we're all pretty much clueless when it comes to diseases. It's a terrible feeling too (How did those pond fish get on by the way?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 (How did those pond fish get on by the way?) i put them back in the pond and they all seem fine thanks no more died. i was thinking that maybe the ones that died maybe froze over the winter or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 it was in the breeding tank with the female she is about 2cm bigger than him and they were getting on fine. So there is no way it will survive, even with the Trichozole treatment I've had breeding pairs breed happily for years and then all of a sudden one will go into decline for no apparent reason. Its sad, I know, but they just don't live forever. Judging by its general condition, even if you were able to kill off any flukes or other pathogens, your fish will already have severe organ damage. There really is very little you can do now. Chalk it up to experience, and make sure you do your best to look after your other Discus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 How is the discus now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted September 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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