ZEOvitANZ Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Would just like to say if you are not using the product zeovit please do not use this name. The original product has " Korrallen-zucht " written on the packaging. There seems to be alot of people claiming they have used " zeovit " and they havn't. They are using a copy product that has not had much success oversea's. I am worried this product is going to taint the good name "zeovit" has . Please be weary of immitations. I want to also clear up a point of using phosphate removers with zeovit. You do not use them at all. The zeovit system is a complete system. If you had to use phosphate removers why use zeovit ? It seems pointless to me. Also would like to know how zeovit leaves a coating of nice colour on the coral. Does it get out a minny spray can of paint ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Sorry, but my inital enquiries to you about zeovit went un-answered, so I found other sources for it, and yes it is the original system I have. The zeovit came in clear plastic bags with blue german writing on it including "Korrallen-zucht" at the top. If you are the AU/NZ agent, then you really should reply to your customers enquiries, it's hard to sell stuff if you don't. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Layton - Thats a bit harsh man. I have delt with zeovitnz several times and found him to be nothing but friendly, helpful and very well informed. He has always replied to my emails, offered help and objective advice. I have purchased some Zeovit from him (havn't started to use it yet) and even have a few of his corals in my tank, his sevice was speedy and always kept me informed. We did have an issue over price (something worked out more expenive than I was first quoted) but I am happy with the resoultion I got and as that guy on TV sais 'its the putting right that counts'. My dealings with zeovitnz would rate 9/10. Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 ZeoBioBak is the original product, made by aqualight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetskisteve Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Get yourself a wooden spoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicks Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Reefs, Show us some tanks that are using it, or are you going to use in on your own tank???? I have had no problems with Zeovit I have been using it for one month and things are looking good. I have no measurable PO4 and I have had a good growth spurt out of my sps. All the frags I got from Brendan have firmly anchored themselves and are showing good growth. I am in no rush as thing are progressing well and in another couple of months I will hopefully sustain the sames levels in growth and colour I will be well happy. So come on Reefs, set up a tank using the original stuff and blow us away with some Acopora's with intense colours and stop slating other aquarists that are doing their bit to advance the hobby and rid the world of dull brown sps's Show us results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 see zeovit free tanks http://twize.com/reef/steveweast.html zeovit free photo http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/acroalois.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 OK things sure are getting heated Hey we are all friends here right? Everyone - I have no doubt that there are some special tanks out there using and not using Zeovit, of this their is no arguement (thanks for the links reef, and there are many more awesome SPS tanks without Zeovit (or similar)). But lets think like this - not all tanks that don't have Zeovit (or similar) look that good, however all (most?) that do employ this sytem do. This is how I have looked at the Zeovit (or similar), that its a more likley to give me good colours, especially in a mixed reef like mine (SPS, LPS, Mushrooms and leathers). I am not sure what one is the original product - Zeovit, Zeobiobit, ZeoDeoDio, vodka, brown sugar or anything else! I belive the POINT of zeovitnzs post was simply that his product is called ZEOVIT, and thats it, if you belive that other products are the same (becaue Zeovit copied it or vice versa) this doesn't matter. ZEOVIT is ZEOVIT and ZEOBIOBAK is ZEOBIOBAK. So if you adding ZEOBIOBAK to your tank you are adding ZEOBIOBAK NOT Zeovit. Thats all he was saying, I think. I personally don't care which came first, or who copied who, what anything thinks of the contents. Not important to me. I chose the Zeovit system because of people I know and trust (JetSkiSteve for one) who have seen a tank using this system and say its AWESOME. Those who know JetSKiSteve will know him as a very 'hard sell'. So thats that. Now we can all get onto far more important things like sending me frags... Here is a pic of a Calustra. Not any Calustra though, this particular polyp is one of 4 survivors that spent 4 days in a plastic bag, with no water lost somewhere between Auckland and Wellington. The loss rate was about 70% for the calustra, which is pretty good! No Xenia survived, no leather survived, all mushrooms survived, as did all yellow polyps. And the sadest thing was a Pistol shrimp also survied, and as it fell into my tank, safe after 4 days in a plastic bag, one of my bangaii shot out and ate it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEOvitANZ Posted March 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Hi Layton, Sorry, but did not get your inquires about zeovit. What address did you send them to ? We have changed our email address to [email protected] .Hope this helps. Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicks Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Sorry if I struck a nerve, I didn't mean to What I am saying is there is more than just one system available to reef keepers to enable them to keep stunning tanks and also rib the world of brown acro's. I have always been impressed with mud systems and have seen some great skimmerless systems as well although I have not seen them myself. DSB and Phelums are also good I beleive and I am sure people have great results with them. it could all be to do with Halides, again great tanks can be seen with 150, 250, 400w in colours 6500, 10000, 14000, 20000, using all sorts of supplemented lighting VHO, Antinics, T5's etc, etc, etc. I donot believe any one out there has the right to say this system or that system is the only one that works. If it works for you that is great, but it might not work for someone else. I have kept fish now for 28years and have seen every possible product used, re-used and re-branded, in vogue out of vogue and many just disappear of the face of the earth. Reefs, you could be right it might be an old product that never got of the ground when first released or came to the end of its product life. Don't forget that 80% of new products that are released into the market fail within the first year and not many last more than 3 years. But if it had potential it is good marketing practice to look at it again tweak it, apply the 4P's and run with it. Because it is has now become a new product Anyway everyone keep up the good work and happy reefing and long may the brown acropora disappear of the face of the earth But I want a F#$@%$# huge skimmer like Reefs. I want 8 x 400w Raduims I want David Saxby's tank If I cannot have Davids I want Reefs Tunze streams everywhere even in my bath And electric blue acros in nemo tanks Good Reefing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Speaking of Bluetooth WAP GPRS etc & hardsell If anyone wants a new phone(021) send me an email NOBODY can beat my prices eg. Sony-Ericcson T610 $420 delivered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Now i'm interested, who is David Saxby, and please post some photo's of his tank. Sounds very impressive. Hey Steve can you get Nokia phones? Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 here is a link of photos, which are not that great. http://www.paraquatics.co.uk/davidsaxby.htm i went to see his tank when i was in london. great tank. i have a proffessional video of his tank, i will put it on dvd and post you a copy. maybe we should put togeather a dvd of all the great nz tanks? The next issue of the CORAL magazine due out in april will have discussions on filter systems including zeovit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 Looks good, the photo's aren't the best, but I get the idea. Still recon that Steve Weasts tank is the best though! A DVD sounds like a great idea. I have access to pro video editing equipment and DVD recording equipment, I would be more than happy to put something together if people want to send me video or high quality still pics. Layton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 DVD sounds good. I have made a low res vid and high res stills of my tank and sent it up to JetSkiSteve so anyone who wants to have a look let Steve know. I can burn and edit DVDs for anyone who is interested, but I don't have the time to do anything to smart, JetSkiSteve has DVD write too I think. Anyone one wants pics or movies of my tank send me a Stamped Self Addressed Envelope and $5.00 and I will send you a limited edition collecters edition 'HOMEREEF' DVD. The first 25 people to do so will also go into the draw to win a Blue Acropora frag with 6 runner up prices of Hagen test kits. Don't hesitate act today! Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 but wait there's more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEOvitANZ Posted March 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 Sorry, how do you enter ?? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.Alexander Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 Hi, my name is Alexander, I was born an live in Germany. Please be patient with my English, it is not perfect, I know. I found some threads about the Zeovit products in the board. I use this method since September 2001 in my nearly 100 % SPS tank. The result of the method is impressing. The method is working fine, it is easy to apply and the components are not to cost intensive. I am a little bit confused why some people always try to explain that this method is the same thing like dosing vodka, sugar or some other stuff like the Aqualight products (ZeoBioBac). Dosing carbon (Vodka) to boost bacteria maybe helps to bring down PO4 and NO3. There are some reefers in Germany running this method with success, other tanks crashed. I have heard from some reefers using this method in their tanks stocked with delicate SPS corals. They had no success. The corals lost their tissue beginning at the top, also loosing their colors. I have not tested this method. I also did some tests with sugar some years ago. Everybody telling that it really works is not genuine. Adding sugar to the tank will boost the growth of bacteria, especially red or brown slime. The other product named in this thread (ZeoBioBac) is from a German company named Aqualight Feige. This company is specialized in freshwater which is totally different from seawater. They also offer zeolite, bacteria and a food source for the bacteria. The keynote is the same as the Zeovit system, but the ingredients are totally different. First of all it is more than important to use a zeolite which is capable for seawater. To find this products it is very important to know what to find. There are hundred different zeolites available each one with his own attributes. The Aqualight zeolite, I tested 2 years ago, caused tissue lost from the base, also the lost of color in most of my SPS. I also did tests in the beginning with the bacteria from Aqualight. Dosing them in the recommended quantity shows no effect. The quantities needed are absolutely improvident and to cost intensive for me. Maybe the bacteria of the Korallen-zucht products and the bacteria of Aqualight contain some equal bacteria but the concentration seems to be very different. The last point is the food source for bacteria. Both products (Aqualight and Korallen-Zucht) contain acetic acid. To find it out we do not have to be chemicals. I also used the Aqualight product 2 years ago. I lost some fish 2 hours after adding the recommended quantity. Zeofood does not contain iron to fell PO4 ! To understand how the Zeovit method works it is necessary to consider that SPS can use nutrients as a food source. This will boost the growth of zooxanthellae. Corals can use the waste products of the algae as one of some other food sources. The corals will become dark like chocolate. If the zoox density is high, the natural color of the corals is superpose and we can not see the real coloration. In a nutrient poor environment SPS are not necessary to use the same quantity of nutrients as food source. They need other elements to kept alive. These elements are contained in the Zeofood and in some other products sold by Korallen-Zucht. All the elements contained in this products are not theoretically mixed. They did copious tests for many years in their own tanks containing also very delicate corals. Visit their homepage, there are a lot of pictures proofing that the system works great. They also run a shop, I only can recommend visiting them if you do your next trip to Europe. It is also necessary to bring good coloration to the SPS with PO4 absorbers and trace elements, but the look of the colors and the tissue is very different. If the Zeovit method is used correctly, you can not differ if the corals is located in a tank or in the sea. Constant water change, strong skimming and a good light source provided to the Zeovit method is not a secret to increase coloration and this is practiced with a lot of methods. I do not want to denigrate other ways, but these are my practical, personal experiences. Hope this brings some clarity. Alexander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 All makes sense to me!!! Pefect english you must watch too much telly Thanks Alexander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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