markoshark Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 80cm long x 35cm wide x 50cm high 140L? Looking for "interesting" soft corals, clams, and anenomies. Also what kind of fish? Couple of clowns, cleaner shrimp, and a seahorse? Equipment, bearing in mind that I won't be able to run a sump on it? Reef Octopus HOB Skimmer? Ideas please Also, if you can, photos SPENDING: Tank + Sumps $200 Berlin Skimmer $150 Return Pump $30 Live Rock $150 2x Bristlestarfish $40 Lighting $200 Salt Mixing Pump $10 Heater $0.00 Stand $0.00 Plumbing $50 Test Kits + Salt $25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 im setting up a nano reef try some pachyclavularia spp. xenia spp. euphyllia cristata good luck with it let us know how you get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Its probably going to take me literally months to set it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Beware the tank invading Anemone! I have a BTA, which takes up about half of our 105l tank, mainly because it has set it self up RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE and stings anything around it. Whilst it started off as a cute little Bubble Tip, it has evolved into a long tentacle'd monster, and I can't put anything near it, plus my maroon clown has chucked anything that I put near it down the back of the tank. This includes Mushys stuck down with toothpicks and superglue. Clams need good light at 10,000k colour temperature to do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Clowns and seahorses will be a problem together, youll find it very difficult to feed the seahorses because the clowns will eat everything before they get a chance. Clams and Anenemies needs as good water quality/parameters and light as hard corals. If you are planning a softy only tank because you like them thats all good and well, but don't think you will be able to get away with less light, flow, calcium, etc etc. Anenomies are as difficult (and more so in some cases) as hard corals and clams have large calcium requirements for growing their shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted June 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 I just don't like hard corals as much though, hence soft tank. How many MH lights & bulbs would I require for this? 1? 2? Or, would 2x double bulb T5s be enough? And I think i'll change the tank depth to 60cm. I could possibly have a sump, but it would be bloody tiny, and it would be virtually inaccessable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfactor Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Check out my tank if you want. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/the-home-straight-anyone-interested-in-my-first-aquarium-vt22127.html From what I can see you are pretty much setting up the same tank as me, but I may be month or so ahead of you if that. As someone who has been setting up my tank for 3 months - actually more, one thing I would recommend is getting your cycle started and working out the details later. This may push some buttons, but a cylce can take 3 months to carry out which is pretty rugged. In hindsight a great way to do it would be get some rock, make up some water, whack it in a $10 plastic bin and put it in the garage with a powerhead circulating the water a bit. Then you can work on getting your other equipment and such, while keeping an eye on your plastic bin's levels and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 i'm not even at the stage of having bought tank yet rofl. Will be discussing rock & substrate soon today ^.^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted June 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Is a protein skimmer required on a soft coral only tank - no fish? And is 35cm wide enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerpeller Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 skimmers for most coral tanks... yes... Altho with a nano or other small tanks, ( which isn't such a good idea for a beginner) large weekly water changes seem to work without a skimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 a protein skimmer required on a soft coral only tank - no fish? Protein skimmer is not required for any tank; however you will miss out on all the benefits that a protein skimmer will offer like. Oxygenates the water Removes many organics form the water Corals shed a lot of waste so a skimmer would be very beneficial. Most tanks use a protein skimmer so there must a very good reason to have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 For a 60cm Deep tank you should be looking at 250W MHs. 1 with a good reflector should be sufficient, and add 2 T5s and that should be a sufficient lighting setup. I am with Reef, a protein skimmer is a MUST as far as I am concerned on any salt water tank regardless of bio load. The sump is a good idea even if it's not going to be accessible. throw in a protein skimmer, some Live rock, small sand bed and return flow between your tank. This will act as a refugium providing pods and other small foods into your tank. The Live Rock will also act as a biological filter. Thats my 2c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 you don't need 250Watters on a 60 deep. I have 2x150's on my 55gallon tank and all my SPS are doing great in the top half of the tank. LPS and Softies generally don't need the bright lights SPS need. Skimmer would make your life easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted July 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Have collected Substrate, and 7kg of Rocks On Order: 1x 915x350x550 (LWH) tank with no bracing and 30mm anti-splashguard around the top, and I have worked out how to put in a sump - Dual sump setup, 400x250x400 LWH, joined with 50mm piping. I think I've sorted a Berlin Classic skimmer, which should be fine (I hope!), And i've got more rock and lights on hold. All things going well, might have water in the tank on my birthday! (I ditched the idea of having the tank on my chest of drawers, i'll be putting my alarm clock there, and having a nano coldwater near my bed with rockpool critters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerpeller Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Its the same skimmer as i was planning on using for my 4ft. should be pretty good with a decent pump behind it. something with a high-head is what everyone has recommended to me, but the stock pump should be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petplanet Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 If it is not to late, I would go with a wider tank that was not to deep. Makes aquascaping the whole thing a lot easier. You will find 350 very narrow once you put the rocks in. 915 x 450 x 450 would be a much more usable size. It will make the tank cheaper to as the glass they use could be 6mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted July 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 can't go for a wider tank, nowhere to put it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted July 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003- ... /index.php Finally found the tank that I was looking at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted July 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 2x Clowns 2x Fire Gobies 1x Blenny 2x Bangaii Cardinal 3x Chromis Any other "Interesting" fish that I should keep an eye out for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Six Line Wrasse ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I would not put a sixline in a small tank. They can be very domineering with small fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted August 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 !twirl! I hope to be getting rid of my old tank tonight, and start cutting into my old tank ready for the changearound next weekend... I so happy *dance* Got my skimmer on Thursday, got a pump sorted on Tuesday.. SO HAPPY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 lol i set up my tank yday it looks good :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted August 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 2x Clowns 3x Fire Gobies / Firefish 1x Bicolour Blenny 1x Flame Angel 3x Chromis 1x Bangaii Cardinal And eventually a Manderin. Updated fishlist. am i now overstocked? Chromis go first..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Looks ok, however firefish can fight unless paired. Put the flame angel last as they can be teriororial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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