Gannet Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 we i got to work to day and had about 25 fry still got abot 15 eggs, they are in a tank by them selves with the parents, and filter wool on the out take to the sump to stop them getting sucked down. they still have egg sacks so they rnt eating yet, i had got some cuecumber, zuequinie etc to put in the tank for them to eat... they dad is about 15cm and mum about 10 cm so was realy suprised to get eggs off them... is there anything else that i need to do to try and raise them up... i know that there is only about a 25% success rate with these guys. also i will only be able to get them to 20days old because as of the 20th of may 07 i will no longer be working at the animal shack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 They are very finicky eaters when they are small Need high quality food with great water quality The parents will eat the fry if given the chance really need to move the parents Good luck raising them I know of a few people that really struggle Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 i disagree about the parents eating them as for the babies feeding . Sturisoma seem to like to perch on a high point in the aquarium. Keep them with fairly mellow tankmates. My specimen seems to like the company of a Farlowella that is in the same tank. They hang out side by side much of the day. Of course, feed lots of veggies such as cucumber, green beans, and squash. These fish do not bother plants in the slightest. The males possess a thick growth of head bristles. Adults usually stay on opposite sides of the tank, but will start swimming together when they are ready to spawn. They will clean several possible spawning sites. They usually spawn on the tank glass, but will also spawn on leaves, slate, and the side of flower pots. The majority of spawnings have taken place in large, heavily planted, aquariums. The female lays 3-4 eggs at a time and the male fertilizes the eggs as they are laid. Then the female lays more and on and on until 80-100 eggs are laid. The male guards the eggs which hatch at about 8 days. The yolk sac is consumed in two days and then you must feed the fry with infusoria and soft veggies. The fry can be very tough to raise. hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilah Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Weird stuff, my royal whips that havent bred for nearly a year just started laying again, I have a few fry that are 3 weeks old and they just spawned again last night. I have had sooo much trouble raising these things i just about gave up. I didnt have a single one survive from the last four spawns so hopefully get a few this time. Anyway power feed with veges, keep the water clean and well oxygenated and you're on the right track. Once they reach the 6 week stage your all good What type of sturisoma are they dude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 i believe they are STURISOMA PANAMENSE (ROYAL WHIPTAIL ) they have a distinct hook at the top of their dorsal fin and are at present around 25cm long trio of two females and one male male being larger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilah Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Yeah royal whip covers a few sturisoma species, i have S. festivum, awesome looking fish, if the dorsal has a hook thats what they are. S.panamense have a straight dorsal, still nice looking fish though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 yeah you know i think yr right they are S. festivum just went on planet catfish and they look most like those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I still believe the parents will be a problem with them I know alot of people that have had success raising the fry when the parents have been removed and virtually none survive when the parents were in the tank Nothing else is changed in both situations Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted May 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 these guys are royal farlowella. the water quality in there tank is very good because it is on a 20 tank sump, i have filter woll over the out take to stop them getting sucked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilah Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 I dont think its the fact these guys get eaten in the tank with the parents..i think they starve. The fry are useless at feeding themselves and pretty much have to be sitting on it before they start eating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilah Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Howd the fry go gannet? Still got some? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 yeah was out there today ilah they looked good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilah Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Ah nice one Hey bout time you got serious with your ones mr pleco...im kickin your but at the mo haha yeah iv still got a few congrats on the panaques to mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 cheers shane good to hear about yr royals ...mine first breed for the royals so ill get them eventually lol ... if i wanna get nasty i could ask if ya found a male L104 yet huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 yip they are all going well... apart from the ones that go washed over when the tank flooded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilah Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Yikes, i hate the word flood, bad memories haha, good stuff dude Male L102 would be nice, dont need a 104 haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 chit thought i wrote 102 my bad ilah lol ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 well there is another 45 odd eggs there today and dad is still on them so yay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquatopia Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Go Gannet !!! hope it all goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 sadly i finish work on sunday (last day working at the shop) so i wont get to see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquatopia Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 would they not let you take them home to continue raising them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 i am moving to usa for 6months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquatopia Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 how irresponsible, lol ! well have an awesome time over there ! is there no one who is interested in trying to raise those fry ? what about local breeders who might take them on ? seems such a waste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 they are being raised in the shop... i have tauragt the owner how to raise them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquatopia Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 sweet as ! id love some ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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