yarimochi Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Heya everyone. When we move into our new house I want to upgrade to the AquaOne Aqua grande which is about 300l or 1.5 metres long. I wanted an arowana, pleco, clown knife and maybe an albino oscar. Can these fish be kept together in this tank?? Also, I have only seen arowana and other large fish in aquariums decorated with gravel and driftwood( wow) This type of type seems pretty depressing to me so I wanted to plant some vallsneria or something to the back of the tank. Can these fish be kept with plants? and one last thing, is there any way to prevent drop eye in arowana or is it something that just happens? :roll: Thanks and sorry for the piles of questions... :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 that will be to small for those guys in the long run imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Your O and plec will be fine long term but you need a minimum of 6x3x2 for an aro or clown and even then IMO thats too small for a clown (i saw a pic of a 42" one ). I have an oscar and they are a bit easier to mix fish with than the two larger ones, not to mention easier to house :lol: Generally O's and plants dont mix too well, they see them as toys alot but i have a few friends who keep them in successful planted tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 i own all those fish you listed all the same tank and they do great with each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 I think they will all get along. The tank will be to small to use long term. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarimochi Posted April 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 ok thanks everyone. I think Ill stick with maybe an oscar or two... :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Those tanks are expensive when you start looking at biiig tanks, get a plain old boring rectangular glass tank (preferably with an overflow for a sump). Sharn pretty much summed it up, 6'x3'x2' would be a good size for those fish. Yes the CK might eventually get too big for it (so would the aro, one day...) but it would take a very long time. As for the plants, when you're keeping large fish and feeding large volumes of food, I found plants can make the tank a lot harder to clean. I used to have big pieces of java fern in my tank and it would just collect soooo much sh!t. Bare tanks are easier to keep clean and give monsters the maximum swimming space they need, although I don't think I could ever keep fish in a completely bare tank, a few pieces of wood and a thin layer of sand look so much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 ok thanks everyone. I think Ill stick with maybe an oscar or two... :roll: Also consider having a tank custom made, at those sizes it will save you a lot of money. We have 5 oscars in a 650L tank, but we plan to only leave 3 adults in there later on, they do take a while to grow to full size I've found, also have a few severums and a couple of different species of pleco in there too. I do also recommend Gold or Green Severums, and Convicts, both are species that will breed in the tank despite any big nasty fish and it's fun to watch. With any large cichlid (Severum, Oscars) or plecos (which you'll need to clean up oscar leftovers) any plant that isn't fake will be ripped apart. We put a 50cm tall Borneo sword in our tank, and once the oscars had finished biting it, the common pleco finished it off by sucking on the stems, I removed it the next day and it was totally destroyed :( While a 300L is huge in terms of smaller fish, or even angel fish etc, for the big guys like arowana, knives, and oscars its only a juvenile tank. Two oscars would be fine in there, but when they get to 25cm or so you'd want to get a bigger tank, you wouldn't HAVE to, but I would. The mrs saw a baby Arowana a few weeks back for $130 and badly wanted it, and we had a tank for it (450L), but we decided against it anyway since they seem to have this problem with dropeye and we'd just feel sad for it all the time, despite that, an amazing fish though! Is having an 'All-in-One' tank essential for you? If not, then let us know the price, and we might be able to budget you out something much larger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 hum, bring an aro and a trio of oscars up with a few hundred tetras. With the larger fish, is there any way of preventing them from attacking / eating smaller fish as they grow bigger, (ie, constant small tankmates, etc), or will they turn around and eat everything due to biological stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 try bucktoothed tetras exodon paradoxus , the hunter becomes the hunted 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 .. Crap. They eat piranha? Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 With the larger fish, is there any way of preventing them from attacking / eating smaller fish as they grow bigger, (ie, constant small tankmates, etc), or will they turn around and eat everything due to biological stuff? Perhaps in a really big (like thousands of litres) tank you could possibly keep a huge school of something tiny [neons?] with some really big fish (aro's, catfish etc) if they're well fed. I doubt in habitat that a 4' RTC would bother chasing down a school of neons for a snack... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 do r t c live with neons in the wild ? i always thought they were asian , :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 There is asian RTC and south american RTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quack Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 i dont know about keeping them with tetras and stuff but smaller cichilds will work ok, i grow all my oscars apart from my new one up from babys in tanks with other smaller cichilds and now they live happy together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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