Loopy Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 But what about those who want to raise their fish from fry to breeding stage? isn't that MORE rewarding? To know you did the work from the moment those fry started looking for food and needing water changes and watching their progress and you did ALL the fry raising yourself instead of some fish farm overseas and then to have your well cared for fish spawn for you after all the work you put in; should be the biggest reward of all! In some cases with regards to buying fish from the LFS i flatly refuse to spend the high prices that are charged to compensate for someone else to raise a fish when i could do it and get the enjoyment of watching my own fish grow and develope. And just a note: The Krib fry that Wilson gave me so kindly have grown out wonderfully and a pair just spawned for the first time on friday night. Thanks Wilson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 But what about those who want to raise their fish from fry to breeding stage? isn't that MORE rewarding? To know you did the work from the moment those fry started looking for food and needing water changes and watching their progress and you did ALL the fry raising yourself instead of some fish farm overseas and then to have your well cared for fish spawn for you after all the work you put in; should be the biggest reward of all! In some cases with regards to buying fish from the LFS i flatly refuse to spend the high prices that are charged to compensate for someone else to raise a fish when i could do it and get the enjoyment of watching my own fish grow and develope. And just a note: The Krib fry that Wilson gave me so kindly have grown out wonderfully and a pair just spawned for the first time on friday night. Thanks Wilson! Personally I don't see any difference - growing out fish is growing out fish, regardless of where they came from. If you choose not to pay retail for fish then that is entirely your decision, but don't grizzle because people won't give them to you for free :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 its not about the retail we are all here to help each other out and that is how we keep the hobby alive here. and it sounds like you are saying if i would like to try and raise some fry but i carn't get my fish to breed (which you can and are you are not taking care of the fry anyway)Then. Too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 If you just want to grow someone else's fry out, you may as well just by some from the local fish shop - most of the fish there are babies anyway, and you have a better chance of success because they have already made it to a certain size and are viable. It's more interesting to buy a fish with an origin and history that you know. It's also more interesting if you know or have seen the parents fish. It also encourages a wider spread of genetic variance. If you don't have time or the will to donate fry that's not a problem at all, you by no means should be expected to, but those that ask are welcome to do so because many other people are happy to offer this service. I myself have 200 convict fry at the moment and if somebody asked for some I'd gladly give them away for free. I raised them from baby fry, paired them, bred them again, now I'd like to see their offspring thrive in other peoples aquariums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janelle Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Personally I don't see any difference - growing out fish is growing out fish, regardless of where they came from. If you choose not to pay retail for fish then that is entirely your decision, but don't grizzle because people won't give them to you for free :lol: I think I would be far more appreciative of getting fish from someone I knew took care in breeding them rather than someone I don't know who may have bred purely for profit. I like to support people I know even if I have to buy their fish, and why spend mark-up if good people are breeding fish and not looking to make a profit? It's not like I'm neglecting my LFS in the meantime but if something is available cheaper because someone I know has an excess, I'd like to think I could give their fry a chance and leave the LFS fish for others who are willing to go there. I've been very happy to breed my fish but if I ran out of room I know I have several people on-hand who would be happy to breed out my babies, and I would care for them enough to want them to go to good homes if I know they are wanted and will be well looked after. At the same time, it's been fun to raise fish I know I don't want to keep in the long-term, just to get them to the size they'd be interesting for someone else to have (ie. the baby guppies that accidentally came with my mum's other guppies - I don't like guppies but it's fun raising the fry until they can go back into her tank with the other adults without getting eaten by voracious danios). So I really don't get it, it just sounds like selfishness to let the fry perish because you don't want to give them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Ok thread is starting to cross the line now. Please no personal attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 I like to support people I know even if I have to buy their fish, and why spend mark-up if good people are breeding fish and not looking to make a profit? The difference here is that you sound like you are willing to give something back (i.e. money) for the work that goes into producing fry in the first place, unlike some of the previous posters and people who have PM'd me wanting everything for free. I have no problem with selling fry at a price that covers my costs, but I'm not faffing around at my own expense for people I've never met who want to call me names. Selfish? Maybe, but that's my call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 I beleive that to be a fair response. Can we please now shift back to the original topic: 'Who is breeding what in ChCh?' and 'Whats your favourite fish?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janelle Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I beleive that to be a fair response. Can we please now shift back to the original topic: 'Who is breeding what in ChCh?' and 'Whats your favourite fish?' Sigh. I meant selfish for letting the fry die if there was an alternative. Anyway, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wilson Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 And just a note: The Krib fry that Wilson gave me so kindly have grown out wonderfully and a pair just spawned for the first time on friday night. Thanks Wilson! glad they are going well i have no problem with giving fry away i dont have tank space to grow them out to a size where i can sell on to shops or friends i think myself lucky that loopy could take the fry off my hands because they would of just became food for other fish not something that i like seeing in my tanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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