davidb Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 who uses this stuff? I have read about it but have not seen it for sale i am thinking about altering my sump so that it includes a refugium. how much does it cost? and also where would i get macroalgae from if i set up a refugium? I am thinking about having my tank so it goes overflow through filter wool, then it will be skimmed. then it goes through the refugium, through submerged bioballs past the heater then back to the main tank... cheers for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 here is a tanks that use it http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/my-lit ... 19714.html http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/i-knew ... 19763.html http://66.218.71.231/language/translati ... nsimi.html There are few more, will have to find the links. Hollywoods sell it. not sure of price. When i was using it the caulerpa algae loved it due to the iron in it. some info http://www.ecosystemaquarium.com/html/FAQ.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 What are you looking to achieve with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted March 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 i'm more using it because i want to keep a mandarin so i want lots of macroalgae so i can have lots of pods... I also want it for crystal clear water etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 what size tank have you got? It's more than likely there are plenty of pods to support a mandarin, most pods aren't too visible. Which means that you don't need to trap any more detritus and filth with macroalgae, or yellow the water with algae leachates. So the MM may not be necessary. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted March 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 oh thanks layton. I have 200 L with 40L sump. berlin method.... At the moment i am just stocking it with corals... I have pulsing xenia, sarcophyton, mushrooms, colt and a fewe other small things at the moment. I really really want a sixline wrasse, at the moment I have a striped goby, a bta with a pink skunk clown, and 3x green chroms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 sand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted March 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 haha sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 I was asking if you had sand, but I see from your pics a few threads down that you do. The mandarin should be fine without changing anything. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 I have used a product called Reef Solutions, made by the manufacturers of Miracle Mud. It is basically the same ingredients, but in a bottle you can dose. It is the best stuff out ever for softies & LPS, but IME did nothing for SPS. From what I have read from MM users on sites like RC, they get great results with it, once again, with softies & LPS. It does put some colour in the water, you are supposed to use carbon to keep it clean. I think it is a great system, pity there are not more tanks using it in NZ. While IME it did nothing for SPS corals, it certainly did not do any harm. Bear in mind you should run a lot of light in the refugium to really keep that macro algae cranking. You may not ever achieve one of these super low nutrient tanks with it, but who cares there is a lot of stuff you cannot keep in those super low nutrient tanks, such as a manderin would normally be difficult. You can certainly achieve a very interesting tank with it. If you read up on it at RC, you will find opinion very divided on it, with some users raving about it, a few failed users who think it was their biggest mistake, and people who just don't understand it bashing it just for the heck of it. Very similar situation to zeovit. But I am sure done properly, and understanding what you want to achieve and what type of tank the system will suit, it will work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifty Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 miracle mu is a very easy system to use(IMO). Both my brother and I use it and we have both had great results with it, both with sps lps and softies. I made the mistake of taking my calupra out of my sump so have a hair algae prob I am slowly getting rid of. My brother on the other hand has had no problems and his tank is very clean with all types of corals doing very well. Ongoing maintenance is very low. My brother for instance changes 10% water every 6 weeks or so, and until he got sps 6 months ago never really added any cal or alk to his tank on a regular basis. Just depends on what sort of system you want and how much maintenance you are prepared to undertake as to how you set your tank up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted March 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 thanks wasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Both my brother and I use it and we have both had great results with it Yes, if those recent pics you posted are any indication how the product works, the results speak for themselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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