Adrienne Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Hello everyone, I was wondering does anyone know the ph level that fighters like the most - my ph is 6 when it comes out the taps and I am wondering if that is too low although all my fighters seem fine and it doesn't stop them spawning. Thanks for any help you can give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billaney Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 if they seem fine and are happy enough to spawn , i'd say cool , leave them be . If you start "fiddleing" with the Ph you have to try and keep it consistant which is easyer said than done once you manually alter it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 What is your water supply. At pH 6 you would be lucky to have any copper left in the system.Local Authorities would normally have the pH slightly alkali to avoid corrosin of copper and brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Also I find the pH will raise over a period of 12-24 hours as the chlorine etc evaporates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 pH should theoretically lower after chlorine evaporates as chlorine is basic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Oh whoops, maybe I got that mixed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke* Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 No CO2 dissipates also raising the pH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke* Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 But to answer the question, 6.8-7.4 is what is recommended http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/anaba ... /betta.htm. As mentioned a stable pH is the most important thing though. Someone was asking recently about a betta peat product that supposedly replicates their natural environment, so I assumed they would like it naturally on the acidic side of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Thanks for all this info - straight from the tap ph is 6.0. Even when I have tried to increase it by using ph up it rarely gets past 6.4. Will look on the site given and see what it says otherwise I guess I should leave it as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 hey adodge- what water supply are you on? don't bother about adding pH up to the water, it should be fine as is... betta's would rather have water slightly acidic rather than basic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Hi, I'm in Epsom so whatever supply central Auckland is on. I did another ph check today - don't know whats going on! Straight from the tap 7.8 today so checked some of my tanks - 1x ph6, 1x 7.8, 2x 6.4 and fortunately the one housing all my big males at 7.4. I think that seeing as they seem okay I had better not tamper with it. Thanks anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 I think you should check your method of testing pH as the phones at the Council would melt if the pH was 6 because it would corrode all brass fittings and eat the hot water cylinder in a very short time. Chlorine makes the water acid (lowers pH ) as it forms hypochlorus acid with water and as it is removed the pH will rise. Councils try pretty hard to supply water that is slightly alkali to avoid corrosion problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Once you start artificially altering pH you will likely be chasing it for ever. I breed killies and don't own a pH testing kit. If I want soft acid water to breed killies I use rainwater with peat. Unless you invest heavily in a good kit they are not very reliable. I have bred thousands of fighters in tap water without a problem. Feeding the fry is the tricky part rather than water conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Thanks again for your advice - I am going to leave the ph alone - I have the fry feeding well and truly sorted - 5 tanks of them ranging from 8 days to nearly 4 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 It sounds like you have it sorted. I used to use a gadget I made to rear the males. It is hard to explain but I will give it a go. I had a tank 600x600x400high and built another tank slightly smaller with straps on the top to suspend it inside the other and leave about 100mm underneath.Put stainless steel mesh on the bottom of the smaller tank and divide it into sections of about 60x60 with glass. You now have a number of small tanks with netting bottoms. Put one male in each and give a water change by lifting the inside tank up and letting it go. Waste falls out the bottom and can be siphoned off. They will develop good finnage this way because they are forever showing off to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Thanks for that. I have the bulk of the young males in a 4ft tank in 11/2 litre bottles with holes and grill like lines down the sides. Have them sitting about 10cm from the bottom of the tank on the undergravel filters which I have raised. Much the same thing - lift the containers and the waste falls out but your way would probably be easier as I have to put a small amount of gravel in the bottles to stop the filters tipping them over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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