Gatito Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Hey guys, i've had bettas and BN's for a while now, and didn't bother with a proper filter (just airation stone on the pump) :oops: Yesterday i went out and got some rosy tetras, a red spot pleco and a couple of clown loaches. With the new additions, i decided to finally get my stuff together, and got a filter and the pH, nitrite and ammonia test kits. Test results were fine, but it's been about 24hours since the filter got put in, and just over half of the white spongy part has gone yucky and brownish, from the bottom. Is this just because my possibly dirty dirty tank is finally getting cleaned up? Or do they normally accumulate grime this quickly? Also, when should I replace the cartridge (bit with the white sponge and charcoal-looking things)? Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 First up, you really need a gravel vac, they only cost $10-20 max. Once every week you hook them to a hose, and syphon out 20% of the water, doing this will keep your gravel clean-ish and stop any major build ups of nitrate or phosphate etc. Great to hear your ammonia and nitrite is 0 Generally replacing the filter medium is a very bad idea as thats where your beneficial bacteria will build up. For normal electric pumps, you will only need to rinse it (in spare tank water, or luke warm tap water) when you notice the filter slows down a lot and has really clogged itself up - normally once a month or maybe 2 weeks depending on the size (assuming its hang on the back or internal), larger externals 3 months to never. For undergravel filters (air powered, sit underneath the gravel) that have those little caps you put cotton wool and carbon in, you can replace that as often as you want, as your bacteria will 99% be in your gravel. However you dont need to until it clogs up (e.g. air starts bubbling through the gravel instead out of the funnel). For air powered corner filters, the same applies as the normal elecs, dont replace, only rinse and only do so with warm water, and you only need to do it when it gets clogged (and it'll look real gross). If you are replacing carbon (the black stuff) then you are supposed to do this every 30 days, however if you have to replace both the carbon and wool (not one or the other) then just leave it. Remember to remove the carbon whenever medicating the tank. Clown loaches are very sensitive, watch out for white spot very closely. Redspot Plecos grow huge (50-60cm) although they slow down in growth when they hit 15-20cm usually. Keep that in mind, bristlenose are really the best for algae control as they stay small Hope that helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatito Posted November 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Great, thanks a lot, shall have to look into a gravel vac. I'm familiar with the plecos growth - waitied til i was prepared to grow with it befor i got this one . But thanks for the tips on the filters and clown loaches, much appreciated. Have a good day, Jo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 If your going to leave an filter till it virtually clogs up then it isnt really working very well at that time To keep it working at its peak keeping it flowing properly is a must Also never ever use tap water to clean biological media as your killing the bacteria A good gravel vac is amust for keeping the tank clean as well What sizetank do you have? And what filter are you running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 I have to say that living in an area without chlorine or fluoride added to the water supply, I always clean my filter stuff under the tap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Its not just the Chlorine I would be worried about Its also a complete water change Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 would the temp change from the tap water hurt bacteria colonies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 I use warm water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Yeah the difference in temp will affect the bacteria as well I cant see why people dont have a bucket and just siphon some water out of the tank while they are doin water changes and use that water to clean the filter media So simple and no chance of accidently killing that bectaria Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 thats what i do. its quite satisfying to get all the gunk out of filters (yeah i am wierd) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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