evilknieval69 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Hi I am just wondering about a few things to have in a tank dedicated to breeding BN. I am after peoples opinions mainly The setup i am thinking of making is a barebottom 2 foot tank, barebottom but with lots of driftwood and pots, HOB filter, Powerhead inside the tank for water movement (150 LPH) and Dim lighting (if any at all). What do you think this would be like??? Im not sure about the flow, would gentle flow be better?? I am wanting to have about 3-4 big females and 1-2 big males in the tank..... (i will feed them lots so they get really big and fat and plump and have lots of babys!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon021 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 In tank like that i would go for one male and maybe 2 females. Too many males would end up in fights and not enough 'action'. Too many females would not be good for the male. It takes about 3-4 weeks for a female to be in condition and 2-3 weeks for the fry to leave to cave. So if you had more than 2 females the male will always be spawning and it may be a good thing in the short run but not in the long run. Having more than 2 females would create a dominant female who will always be after food and the male, which is another down point for having more than 2 females. Personally i would have a bit of gravel 1-2cm, a small water flow like you said bit of bog wood & rocks and good varied food. Even if you don't get everything perfectly they would still breed, Just by being on good food and good water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 sounds like a winner would go with some subtract like mystic is suggesting and a strong flow is great, 150 LPH is not too strong at all for a 2 foot = 50Litre? i have a 1000L/H flow in my 2 foot breeding GBAs. wont bother with the pots just a lot of drift wood would be perfect. let us know how it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I have beach sand in mine and they love it. But I have found that in clear spaces that they will dig down to the glass bottom. So I have heaps of rocks and ornaments to keep the clear space down to a min so i dont have to look at the glass allday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 OK So this is my new idea. 2 foot tank (60 L ), Dark gravel substrate, Pots & wood, HOB filter, 300LPH powerhead and dim lighting. wont bother with the pots just a lot of drift wood would be perfect. My breeding pair have only spawned in a pot before though!!! The reason i am setting up this tank is because my breeding female died the other night and i have 2 big males left in one tank and a couple big females.... So i want to pump out the babys :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 My breeding pair have only spawned in a pot before though!!! The reason i am setting up this tank is because my breeding female died the other night and i have 2 big males left in one tank and a couple big females.... So i want to pump out the babys fair enough but i am sure ur find they wont use it once they get settle in with all those nice drift wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted September 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 fair enough but i am sure ur find they wont use it once they get settle in with all those nice drift wood :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Mine used to breed in this They havent breed in awhile. The kribs took over the head and still havent breed. So I dont know whats going on Also this is what they do to mu sand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie trice Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 are they hidin in the sand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Just be careful with the HOB filter, at one stage a lot of my bristlenose were half sucked into the intake and killed I ended up covering the intake with filter wool, it decreased the flow rate but saved a few fry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted September 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Just be careful with the HOB filter, at one stage a lot of my bristlenose were half sucked into the intake and killed I ended up covering the intake with filter wool, it decreased the flow rate but saved a few fry I am not going to use the HOB filter anymore anyways, im using it on my marine tank :lol: Im just guna use a double sponge filter i think. Thanks for all your help guys, I have the rocks and pots and gravel and wood in and have it al setup nicely, minus the water.... :lol: I just need to wait until i free up a heater from another tank then i will start it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 What I ended up using in one of my fry tanks was a Jebo 502 HOB, the filter itself isnt anything fantastic, but its cheap (~$40) and has a good flow rate, then got one of those 'BioClear' air powered sponge filters, pull out the grey plastic air power shinnanigans, and slide the sponge over the HOB intake. Basically a sponge filter that cranks 400LPH and its easily adjustable at the top, so you can adjust the current depending on whats going on. I needed it because I was intentially overfeeding corgettes/cucumber, and the water was getting less desirable too quickly, after the sponge filter upgrade the water was crystal clear. Also to seed the tank, you can simply just put a few stones from a setup tank in the filter itself. Being cavebreeders in theory they should prefer higher current and high aeration. I cant confirm that myself but I do know that my baby GBAs absolutely love it (i bought them, dont have a breeding pair). Just my thoughts anywho, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Pawz where did you get that cool face wall ornament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted September 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Update: Tank is filled with the heater and filter on also. I have a double sponge filter, a jebo heater and also a 520 LPH powerhead for water movement, can even put the filter attachment onto it if i feel like it :lol: Pics, Well once i get a camera, i wil take pics.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Good work. Ive just come home to my tank's and my bn colony have produced some babies. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 how many male and females did u end up putting in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted September 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 how many male and females did u end up putting in there? Me?? There are no fish in it yet :lol: It is still 'cycling' and i havent been bothered trying to catch the BN for it anyways...... Im putting in my big male and am going to find a couple big females somewhere and put them in.... (anybody got any big female BN for sale :lol: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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