TimTam22 Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hey I have a ghost knife, BN's, clown loaches, discus and kuhli loaches in a tank with what looks like could be the very early stages of white spot which I want to treat straight away, am i right in thinking that I should only use half the recommended does in a tank containing these fish? if not what should I do? I have used white spot treatment so far at half strength as I wanted to treat them quickly but didn't want to hurt the ghost knife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 the BN, clown loaches and khulis will be equally effected- got a tank full of softies there :lol: i would try for a half dose of very gentle meds and watch them for about an hour afterwards, try to have someone check on them hourly also just to make sure. also up the temp. if that doesnt stop if perhaps look into slowly upping it at a time where you can have someone there to check on the tank all the time (can you tell i get paranoid bout meds? lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 trust me I watched them for more than a hour afterwards I was glued to the tank and then last night noticed the tank wasn't blue anymore from the white spot treatment should I add more? :-? , they are due tomorrow for more anyway and the spots are still there. The temp is at 30 is this high enough to kill the spawning ones? I don't know if I am being paranoid but one of the clown loaches was looking off colour last night and wasn't shooting around like normal?? And now I just rang home (i'm at work) And my partner can't see the other clown loach even when putting a block of blood worms in there??? All other fish are going crazy over the blood worms. Is there anything else I can do to help them I don't want any to die and I don't care how much the med's cost as long as they fix my darlings Please please help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Have you any carbon in the filter? This will quickly absorb all meds so needs to be removed before treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktttk Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 It looks like you are doing the right thing with the med.. the tank will go blue when you initially put in the white spot med and then go clear again. 30 deg is a high enough temp to speed up the cycle of the white spot parasite. Make sure there is adequate air circulation because increasing the temperature leads to a decrease in dissolved oxygen in the water. You just have to be patient and follow the instructions on the med bottle. As for your clown loaches not coming out to eat, it maybe because they are not normally fed at this time of the day? and so do not come out for the food.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Ok Thanks for the quick replys, no carbon in the filter at the moment as I thought that would be the case, but do have ceramic noodles in there still? I put in a air pump in there last night with a large air stone to encrease the oxyen. Thanks for the comment about the clowns as that at least that relaxes me a wee bit till I get home and get to check it out myself? I really really want them to all be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Leave the noodles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Ok will do, it just seems that I am not doing enough to help my fishes so I guess that all I can do now is sit and wait for them to fall off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 it probably wouldnt hurt to do some extra water changes siphoning the bottom real well as thats where the cysts are falling. just make sure you redose the meds accordingly afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Ok well they are on there 3rd day of the meds and as directed by the treatment I gave them more this morning half as strong as the first so hopefully they will all fall off soon. When do you recommend I do my first water change? Clown loach was out last night not looking 100% but looking ok, didn't eat much from what i could see when I fed them, he didn't really look very interested at feeding time??? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Clown loach is still not looking very good, my partner just reported that he was at the top of the tank vertically swimming well bobbing? I haven't seen it yet and I don't know how long it was doing it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 My clown loach was dead by the time I got home And when I was checking all the other fish i noticed one of my discus is looking very skinny and unwell, I have seperated him now. (this discus was the one that I spotted the white spot first on) Please any other help would be great Should I be adding salts or picking up any other medication for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I have now noticed that in my other tank that my female krib has passed away :-? I had white spot treatment in there too as I use the same fish net in both my tanks? Have i got some other type of disease in there aswel or are these just the devistating effects of white spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 what does your discus' feces look like? has it been eating properly? i would do some water changes, if they dont look happy its best to get the meds out, add some carbon in a stocking to the tank also which will help get it out quicker, you may need to replace it daily though, i am unsure for med removal. clowns are very sensitive fish and are usually the first to show any problems with tanks so dont beat yourself up too much. i am unsure what effects they (they being whitespot) have in large amounts but its most likely the meds have put your fish off eating, meds are stressful and whitespot is oppertunistic- taking hold when your fishs immune system is down so you need to do a big check of all possible causes for that and try rectify it otherwise your fishies wont get better i know furan does a few external bugs and its very gentle (you can use twice normal dose on plecos) perhaps if this doesnt clear up with these meds it might be worth looking into once youve totally removed the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I thought it looked normal but it was always the shy one in the tank so I'm not totally sure :-? I know that about 2-3weeks ago I got 3 neons from a pet shop when I got them home I noticed one wasn't as bright as the rest on closer inspection he was covered by white spot , I treated the tank straight away and the neon disappeared never to be seen again? at this stage I didn't know that the white spot treatment didn't kill the cysts and I didn't do that good of clean through the gravel so I think that it has just cycled again and since doing a move around of fish between tanks it has spread to 2 of my 3 tanks :evil: (I must add I called the fish shop I got the neon from and they told me there fish don't have white spot!!) All the other fish look happy and are eating well! I did a water change in both tanks last night including cleaning through the gravel and then retreated the water at quarter strength the rest of the fish look happy and the spots are slowly disappearing. i know furan does a few external bugs and its very gentle Do I get this at my LFS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawz Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Hey Timtam, Yes you do just get it at the petshop. Its usually on a card and the there are capsuals. Hope things start turning round for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Ok thanks for that will get some on saturday, fingers crossed no more deaths!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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