shaneo Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Added my first cleaner shrimp today and he is looking bad!! still alive but its like he's paralized can hardly move. What can I do to help it? I think hes in shock because the water parameters are good we already named him!! poor Merv the shrimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 you didn't add him to soon did you....let him float in the bag for awhile(1hour)then add tank water to the bag just a little bit at a time over another hour, don't know weather its right but my two are sweet i hope he comes right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 did you just throw him in when you got him home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted May 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 didn't add him too soon but he had only arrived at the shop that morning. maybe to much for him! anyway he died My first marine to die 60 bucks burried in the garden now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 gees i would have made a single shrimp cocktail sorry to hear, but i have lost many to. but just keep going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Did you actually bury him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 inverts are very susceptible (more so than fish) to changes, especially temperature changes (but also salinity) NEVER expost them to the air, always ensure they're submerged in the water. next time, float the bag for 10-15 minutes then add about 1/4 of the volume of the water in the bag with water from your tank. repeat the same amount about 10 minutes later then again in another 10. then, open the bag under the water (try not to let any of that water into your tank) and let him out (again, without exposing them to the air!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raeh1 Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I double the suggested time to two hours with the lights off for my new inverts. Fingers crossed and touch wood. seems to have worked so far. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Sorry, about your shrimp. A few weeks ago I got 2 yellow banded shrimps of which I hoped they were a pair but clairly not. Not good to lose something so soon. Surpised to hear that you can't have then for shrt moments in the air. My aquarium has an overflow with a lid on it with 2 narrow gaps for the water to flow. It seems that the yellow banded shrimp is a real night shrimp and hides with the first sign of light so I keep checking every morning if he is still there. Twice he wasn't and I looked al over the aquarium to finally find him, by pure luck being, being stuck in the overflow (tail sticking out in the air). Pulled him by the tail out of the overflow back in the tank. Hope he finally has learned his lesson. But no harm to the shrimp at all. Jeroen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted May 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Did you actually bury him.... Sure did next time, float the bag for 10-15 minutes then add about 1/4 of the volume of the water in the bag with water from your tank. repeat the same amount about 10 minutes later then again in another 10 thats what I did word for word, just bad luck I guess :-? Do you still want that work done chim ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 so what are you going to buy now another shrimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 thats what I did word for word, just bad luck I guess and he wasnt exposed to the air at all? check your salinity before getting another shrimp!!! you can borrow my refractometer if you dont have one Do you still want that work done chim ? sorry man, i started getting desperate so have got the old man's mate to do it. a bit more expensive than you too :-? but thats what happens when the wife orders new curtains and knows she cant hang them til the paintings done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted May 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 and he wasnt exposed to the air at all? check your salinity before getting another shrimp!!! he was exposed to air when the guy got him out at hollywoods otherwise as much as I didn't want to I introduced him with there water, so no exposure at my end. My salinity was at 1.025 (too salty??) got the old man's mate to do it. sorry bro but I'm really booked out, but at least wifey is happy :-? ?? :lol: My plan is to wait and make sure tank is spot on for next attempt. feel bad for merv but anyway thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted May 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 O.K I'd like to take the salinity statement back :oops: I'm off to see jetskisteve tomorrow and he's going to check my salinity as I only have a sh#@%y floating meter which I thought was good!! soo I guess your on the money chimera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 I thought the same when my swingarm was measuring 1.024 but a refractrometer measured 1.030! Dunno why my corals weren't happy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 mine was the same all sweet now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted May 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 True salinity 1.029 getting a refracto off steve soon, then I can adjust everything and try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 lol... my salinity was at 1.028 - 1.029 before too and swing arm gave me wrong readings. But my cleaner and fire shrimp were fine under these salinity. I got my refractometer cheap... $50 if i remember, i had a mate from HK who brought it over for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 lowered from 1.029 to 1.028 over the last two days. What is the maximum amount of freash water you can add per day to a 230lt tank to lower the salinity safely? Do I have to wait for the salinity to be correct to do a water change? Thanks Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 lowered from 1.029 to 1.028 over the last two days. What is the maximum amount of freash water you can add per day to a 230lt tank to lower the salinity safely? Do I have to wait for the salinity to be correct to do a water change? You can safely lower at 0.001 per day. Do a water change whenever just be aware that NSW @ Takapuna is typically higher than usual, I think its around 1.026 so add a correct percentage of RODI as well as the NSW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Cheers mate. Hey those frags are doing really well even in 1.028 :-? If you have any more to sell give us a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 if your salinity hits around 1.030 or higher you'll definately have coral death so consider yourself lucky to find it before it got too bad! yeah always got some frags to sell not too many now though, sam (xyzz) came over last night and bought a few. also not too many lps/softies anymore, since they're typically slower growers than sps, what i do have i dont want to part with. i have 3 x various sps on a piece of flat live rock, all about the size of ya thumb that i might sell for the right price. was going to put them on trademe but before i do, if you are keen (or if you're not keen but anyone else is) let me know. also, since there are a few of us around hibiscus coast area, Im keen on buying a small trailer and welding a tank to it. Quite an expense to say the least so would deliver water for a small fee 8) let me know if you'd be interested in getting water dropped off Im gonna start hunting for a trailer now anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I have a real tidy Briford enclosed trailer that might fit your tank in it. Its my work trailer but I only use the racks on top for extension ladders ect. whats the dimensions of the tank? and I'll measure up. Hold on to those frags and I'll pop round mid week if it suits. Do you want a purple finger leather frag, has three 2 inch branches. At no cost of course, i've got heaps! ohh and if the tank wont fit we could make a trailer easy as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 dimensions are 1000 x 1200 for the 1,000 litre tank. issue is whether the suspension will hold a tonne so would have to be heavy duty leaf springs. maybe on the purple leather, trying to go more sps but if its nice enough i'd be keen, cheers pm me. im up north half this week back thursday so thurs night would be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneo Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 cant find tape measure so I'll get back to you on dimensions buy it would likely fit. Old mans a mechanic so I'll ask him about max weight load on springs. Load specs might be on tags so I'll post you tomorrow & I'll throw the frag on TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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