alanmin4304 Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 It is so long since I kept them that I can't remember if it is possible to identify chocolate and gold australe females if kept in the same tank. I don't want to end up crossing them by mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylefish02 Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 yes its very easy one is gold and one is brown.Lucky we dont have the normal cape lopez as choc females and the normals look the same. cheers Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 At the moment I have chocolate and gold fry seperate. My question was to determine if it would be OK to raise them together as it would be easier. I didn't want to mix them and then find I couldn't tell the difference. So it would be OK if I raise both types together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylefish02 Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 yep just seperate them b4 they start to spawn.cheers kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 I'd advise not to mix the babies of the two colours. Sometimes you can get a variation of the chocs and you'll end up mixing the strains. You don't need two tanks tho Alan. Use icecream containers. What number are we talking about, and how old are they?? Alan NZKA 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylefish02 Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Alan he got them both from me.I have hatched out 120 +fry of choc australe from my pair and havnt got one different so i doubt he will aswell.Mixing is fine as long as u can tell the ifference now one should be a lot more golden.I think He has 10 golds and 12 choc or something?? kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Kyle, how much do you know about genetics? I agree with Alan, and would advice the other alan to keep your fish separate. Mainly just because the NZKA doesn't want crossbreeding, (even IF there might be a very small chance of it) as the desired result, from someone’s over confidence. Shae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Thanks for that Kyle I think all the chocs that we have in NZ are ones that originated from Stu. He pointed out the diff to me fairly early on in the piece, and as the original ones that he had weren't straight to start with, there could be trouble coming up. After a discussion with Stu, it was agreed that to try to improve the colour, that we should only be breeding from our darkest fish. IMHO any possibility of crossing should be avoided at all cost. At the moment I am trying to develop what I call an "apricot" colour. That is a gold without any dark markings. I got the colour morph male and chose the lightest colour female. I'm now awaiting the colouring up ofthe babies to see how I got on. The father at any rate, will be bred back with his daughters, with more emphasis on the lighter ones of those. mmmmmmmmmm Lots more icecream to be eaten I think. Alan NZKA 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 I am quite happy to keep them seperate at this stage. I will see what they look like when they are mature. I like to seperate the females to allow them to develop a bit before breeding them. At the moment they are in small floating containers to get them closer to the food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylefish02 Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Ok sorry alanmin i thought you didnt have space for them anywhere else so yea it is best kept seperate.Alan that strain you are talking about is a really nice strain Look anything like this?http://www.killies.com/gallaustralegold.htm.Well both alans give me a shout if you ever need chocs as i have a lot.I am still spawning the gold for you alan minery and have seen them spawn heaps so should give u more than 10 so sorry about that. Cheers Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Not red like those Kyle. More like these, http://www.killies.com/gallaustraleorange.htm but with the dark removed. Must try and get a photo of the three different ones I have so you ppl that are interested can see. Alan NZKA 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Thanks for the info. I have them in seperate containers in seperate tanks in case of accidents. How long before these fry will be big enough to breed. I have a gold male from livebearer breeder via shiu but I assume they are all pretty related. Also have a male gold imported, but at the moment it doesn't look too flash. It has a distended belley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 We have an importer down here who has imported chocolate and gold on a number of occasions and is thinking of doing so again, so there will be different genes about. Out of curiosity what do you get if you cross them---brown split to gold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylefish02 Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Alan M the gld australe i believe have pretty good bloodlines as i know quite a few nzka members refresh there stock via petworld in chch.You say ur male is from South AFrica then ma be wild caught as the killifish association over there is very poor but fish farming is very big in Natal especially Kwazulu Natal.Good luck with the fry.They should be ready to spawn at 2 months if not within if fed properly. cheers Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 It was petworld I was meaning--- Karla is thinking of getting some in from Germany. The imported one does't look as good as the one I got from shiu so it may remain a batchelor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylefish02 Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Ye i asked i they could get me some N. Rachovii and they said next march from germany. cheers Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 It is handy if your husband was German and you speak German. They have some good contacts there but they are usually not cheap. We will just have to keep a look out. I'll just have to get serious with what I have in the meantime. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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