izone2240 Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 hey guys just wondering if 2 large sponge filters will be ok for a month til i upgrade tops with daily 10-20 % water changes ? im looking to breed what type should i start with i.e got my eyes on some veiltail marbles are they harder then say black or platinum's ? .....got a spere tank i can set up for angel parents/eggs Dureing breeding time. was going to have some amazon swards in small terracotta pots so i dont need gravel what should they be filled with as lighting is average ?? could i keep with blue rams ? Any help would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izone2240 Posted May 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichthus Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 Personally I don't see why you couldn't run the tank permanently on two large sponge filters. They are good for breeding/small fry and I have had success with them keeping water in good condition. I guess it just means being careful not to overload the tank or overfeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 If you start with a pair or if you have a number growing on they will get very protective when they decide to breed. I would keep the angels on their own and have another tank ready to remove the pair to if you have more than the one pair. Marble veiltails would be fine to start with. Remember that the genes are in pairs so you want to sort out what genes you have in the breeders so you know what you are going to get in offspring. Double blacks (two black genes) are week but the others are about the same as the marbles. The veiltales can have two genes as well. I used to breed angels with one pair in a 600x300x300mm bare tank and hang a slate near the surface. When they spawn hatch them in a small tank with an airstone and only feed them when they are free swimming. Buy all the tanks you can afford because they will spawn every 10 to 14 days if you feed them well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 If you were just going to have a pair or 2 I see no reason why you can't run the tank with 2 sponge filters indefinitely especially if it is bare bottomed and you did a water change every week or twice a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izone2240 Posted May 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Im thinking 1 pair and maybe 2-3 different ones and if eveythings going ok add 3 rams later on . what do you guys think ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I am thinking that if you put other fish in a tank with breeding angels they will get munted. Set up a seperate tank for the breeding angels. I had a tank about that size where I put a cave each end and two pairs of kribs. The area between the two caves became the war zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izone2240 Posted May 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 i was told i needed to buy 5-6 ANGELS to get a pair ..So was hopeing to remove eggs each time i want to keep a batch . is the pair allways AGGRESSIVE or only when theres eggs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 They are just protecting their spawning area and later the eggs in it. 5-6 is good to get a pair but the pair is best on their own once sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izone2240 Posted May 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Can anyone sex these or should i say try to sex ? http://www.trademe.co.nz/pets-animals/fish/fish/tropical-fish/auction-473179497.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 They are dreaming. Those fish are rubish and I wouldn't breed from them. They have a mix of genes there and not ones you would want No veil tail One has a single striped gene and the other a single marble gene. My guess is that they are a mixture from a normal, marble and blusher. Get better ones than that and at a better price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izone2240 Posted May 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 good point want something i might be able to sell......one day what about this i think it looks quite nice not sure how rear it really is .Good price $ 18 ? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=471809811 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 They are way better fish and very saleable. I developed them the hard way and bred the many years ago. They have a double blusher (stripeless) gene and a double gold gene. They will breed true and are good lookers when young ans sold. A better price and better fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izone2240 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 any tips or tricks i want to do this right the first time .ive herd small ones have no immune system ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Thats rubbish as far as I know. Try to get them to a good size with lots of good food and good water conditions before breeding them. They do well on live food. Blackworms, white worms, daphnia, bloodworms etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izone2240 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Thanks quick question,Ive got a large female zebra danio full of eggs short fin will/can it breed with a long fin ?Havent brought it yet is it worth it or should i iust get another short ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 They will cross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.