Tezza D Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Hi all.. I had frogs several years back, but didn't have much luck with them, but really want to try again. I found some tadpoles in a pond back on the 13th December, and bought 6 of them home. I was hoping for one of the Bell type frogs, and 3 of the taddies have grown quite big (5 cm from nose to tail tip), where as the other 3 (1 of which died not long after I brought them home), have stayed rather tiny... about 3 cm from nose to tail tip. So I'm wondering if I have a mixture of Bell and Whistling Tree frogs, although I didn't expect to find any Whistlers up this far north (I'm in Hamilton). I've seperated out the smaller 2 taddies and popped them into a bucket for now, until I can get a 2nd tank). Is it likely these other 2 tiny tadpoles are still Bells, but just really really tiny ones? They've hardly grown in the 2-3 weeks I've had them, whereas the 3 larger taddies have gotten rather fat and big... they really seem to be LOVING the oxy weed I bought them, as do the 6 water snails I seem to have bought home with the taddies too.. lol!! I've done a bit of research, and know that different types of frogs require different set ups, so just wondering what size tank/enclosure I'd need for the two (possible) Whistlers, and how big an enclosure/tank I need for the 3 (possible) Bells (hoping they're the Gold and Green Bells!!)?? The tank that the bigger tadpoles are in is 32cm Wide x 32cm High x 62cm Long. Will that be big enough? From what I've read, it seems the Whistlers need more height than length etc, but Bells need more space width/length-wise. I'm hoping to pick up a cheap tallish tank for the Whistlers (if that's what they are) but doesn't seem to be much around Hamilton on Trade Me at the moment, and can't really afford new. Looking forward to doing up their enclosures once they become frogs, but still not sure what the best way is to set it up... so many awesome set up ideas on this forum! Trying to decide first whether to just have a "pond" in there (in which case, how BIG a pond do Bells/Whistlers actually need?), or just have a good amount of water in the bottom, with rocks/logs etc sticking out for them to climb on. Also not sure with the plants I want to put in there, whether to somehow plant them in there, or just leave them in their pots. ANY and ALL advice/suggestions given to this newbie would be greatly appreciated! TIA!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I find when first morphed theyre best kept in a small plastic/simple tank for first 2-4weeks. easier to make sure they morph and get onto live foods etc. bigger is always best in the long run. if you end up with 5 bell frogs, 1m long tank be ok imo. welcome to the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza D Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Thanks ID! I'll have to hope I can get a bigger tank then if they all do turn out to be Bells! But if just the 3 biggies are Bells, then would the size tank I've already got be big enough for 3? Also.. the 3 bigger tadpoles started off quite brown, then one, then two, and now all 3 have started turning quite green (no sign of legs or anything yet tho.. :-? )... is this a GOOD or BAD sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Yeah will be ok for some time, maybe for ever but I like to keep bells in 90cm minimum. 120cm is a good size for a few adults. As long as theyre active and eating I wouldnt worry about the colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza D Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Yeah will be ok for some time, maybe for ever but I like to keep bells in 90cm minimum. 120cm is a good size for a few adults. As long as theyre active and eating I wouldnt worry about the colour. Sweet.. thanks. That means I've got some time at least to save up for a bigger tank if needed.. lol! And yes, they're all extremely active and right little piggies! Love their oxy weed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Yeah can always upgrade down the track once theyve grown a bit. Its nice to give them a little room to hop Sounds like your onto it. Regarding plants and how to setup, thats more or less down to personal preference and what works for you. 1/3rd water is probably heaps, plenty of room for land or just pot plants and logs would do. or pot plants burried in the substrate. Could go all out and make a back ground, i normally just stick to driftwood lol Keep them fed and the water clean and its hard to go wrong. :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza D Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Will probably go with a simple set up for now, with $$ being rather tight... and hopefully be able to upgrade their tank and give them a much better, fancier set up later. I just want to keep it looking as natural as possible.. but have NO idea what I'm doing! LOL! Still trying to figure out what plants to put in too. Don't want anything that'll hurt or poison them. Not sure what killed my last Whistlers when I had them years ago... so really hoping to get it right this time round! Always loved frogs, so really glad I've got them again. Not as cuddly as rats, lol, but just as fun to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzreptilezz Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hi all.. I had frogs several years back, but didn't have much luck with them, but really want to try again. I found some tadpoles in a pond back on the 13th December, and bought 6 of them home. I was hoping for one of the Bell type frogs, and 3 of the taddies have grown quite big (5 cm from nose to tail tip), where as the other 3 (1 of which died not long after I brought them home), have stayed rather tiny... about 3 cm from nose to tail tip. So I'm wondering if I have a mixture of Bell and Whistling Tree frogs, although I didn't expect to find any Whistlers up this far north (I'm in Hamilton). I've seperated out the smaller 2 taddies and popped them into a bucket for now, until I can get a 2nd tank). Is it likely these other 2 tiny tadpoles are still Bells, but just really really tiny ones? They've hardly grown in the 2-3 weeks I've had them, whereas the 3 larger taddies have gotten rather fat and big... they really seem to be LOVING the oxy weed I bought them, as do the 6 water snails I seem to have bought home with the taddies too.. lol!! I've done a bit of research, and know that different types of frogs require different set ups, so just wondering what size tank/enclosure I'd need for the two (possible) Whistlers, and how big an enclosure/tank I need for the 3 (possible) Bells (hoping they're the Gold and Green Bells!!)?? The tank that the bigger tadpoles are in is 32cm Wide x 32cm High x 62cm Long. Will that be big enough? From what I've read, it seems the Whistlers need more height than length etc, but Bells need more space width/length-wise. I'm hoping to pick up a cheap tallish tank for the Whistlers (if that's what they are) but doesn't seem to be much around Hamilton on Trade Me at the moment, and can't really afford new. Looking forward to doing up their enclosures once they become frogs, but still not sure what the best way is to set it up... so many awesome set up ideas on this forum! Trying to decide first whether to just have a "pond" in there (in which case, how BIG a pond do Bells/Whistlers actually need?), or just have a good amount of water in the bottom, with rocks/logs etc sticking out for them to climb on. Also not sure with the plants I want to put in there, whether to somehow plant them in there, or just leave them in their pots. ANY and ALL advice/suggestions given to this newbie would be greatly appreciated! TIA!! hey did u get them from that man made pond infront of the giant green house cause thats were i got mine and there all golden bell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza D Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 hey did u get them from that man made pond infront of the giant green house cause thats were i got mine and there all golden bell Yup.. and I hope these ones all are too. I was pretty sure they'd be bell frogs, since Whistlers aren't supposed to be found this far north, but not sure coz of just how tiny the 2 little ones are in comparison to the 3 bigger ones. Maybe they're just a lot younger. :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Ive found they often grow at different rates, nature has funny ways. When restricted in captivity, best to do as you have and separate the sizes as they grow/vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza D Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Ive found they often grow at different rates, nature has funny ways. When restricted in captivity, best to do as you have and separate the sizes as they grow/vary. Cool.. I'll sit back and wait to see what happens then, and stop running around frantically trying to find another small tank for when the smaller taddies morph... or should they be kept in a seperate tank even as frogs, since I'm guessing they'll probably end up being small sized Bell frogs?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos & Siran Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 I think as long as the wee ones can't fit into the big ones mouth you'll be OK, we had a similar problem, we caught 6 wild ones and all but one died so we bought 2 smaller frogs from the LPS, and we had no worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 they will possibly catch up to the other frogs pretty quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza D Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Yay.. that would be good. We don't have much space around here, so one tank would be preferable. Thanks for the help guys. Much appreciated. I'm sure there will be PLENTY more questions to come! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 whistler tadpoles look a lot different they are very dark comapred to bell frog tadpoles as well as being smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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