wasp Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 At last! My 2 false perculas have laid eggs. I know chances are slim, but I'm going to give raising them a shot. If anybody can tell me anything at all about this I'd greatly appreciate it. In particular does anyone know where or how to get live rotifers? And anything else, please share. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmatix Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 so you will need a seperate tank, lots of air input and recomend an optional air driven skimmer. NO poweheads what so ever. Be very carefull moving the egss into the second tank due to the difference in osmotic pressure. rotifers ? http://www.reefculture.com.au/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_31&osCsid=c5b2ccd4df1f34ee0f8ed959a91b1c02 Kelly tarltons Auckland Uni Niwa etc. HTH Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted December 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Thanks Ben, Does that web site supply to NZ? Or is it via the others you mentioned, Kelly Tarltons etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 MAF will probably have something to say about importing rotifers from Australia. I'd try the NZ sources listed. You will probably also need a phytoplankton culture as well. Like Ben has said, you'll need a separate tank, preferably plumbed into your main system, and have a large sponge covered overflow from the rearing tank into your sump. You can't really have any sort of skimmer or powerhead in the tank, they are just too small when they hatch. A search on reef central should give you heaps of info, look for posts by "JHardman", he is the resident clown fish expert there. Good luck raising them. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmatix Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Layton is quite right i forgot about the whole maf thing. I know of ppl that have got them in from http://www.reefculture.com.au/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_31&osCsid=c5b2ccd4df1f34ee0f8ed959a91b1c02 Or here.http://www.austasiaaquaculture.com.au In particular herehttp://www.aquasonic.com.au/ You could also try getting shipped to someone in Aus, repackage in case MAF flags all of there stuff that comes in. A friend of mine works for MAF in the city ill see what she can come up with. Oh speaking of seperate tank i reckon this would be the bomb http://www.reefonline.com.au/shop/product_info.php?cPath=46&products_id=234 HTH Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Some useful info here... http://nzfungi.landcareresearch.co.nz/h ... attributes (With Pics) Location here... http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q= ... DcountryNZ http://bio.waikato.ac.nz/staff/duggan_research.shtml http://www.rsnz.org/publish/nzjz/1996/117.php Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted December 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Wow Thanks all, I wasn't expecting such a useful response. By the time I go through all that I should be able to come up with something workable! I'll update on progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmatix Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Get this, i highly recomend this book especially for its value. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1890087041/qid=1104555307/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-0582404-5179217?v=glance&s=books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted January 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Thanks Ben, that book has been recommended from several sources, so looks like I'll be getting a copy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Hi Wasp Hows the circus going , have they fry hatched yet? How did you get on for tracking down some food for the fry? regards Kermit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted January 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 They have not hatched yet, however you can see little eyes in each egg, so it can't be far away. Not much joy getting rotifers, some places that used to have them now do not, had it confirmed that NIWA have them, but cannot get the right person because of the Christmas holidays. So I'm going to just try NSW, and hope there are sufficient plankton to do the job, but my hopes are not too high. I'll update with progress as it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 My latest batch of eggs are at the same stage, the clowns seem to breed about every 3-4 weeks, they lay on the side of the tank so no hope of removing them either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted January 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 I was chatting to Barry on the phone, he described to me how they can be syphoned after hatching. So, here's hoping! What type of clowns do you have Steve? And how many days from laying to hatching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Would baby brine shrimp not work? something i wonder about is wether or not you could feed them microworms, microworms live for up to 12 hours in freshwater and up to 8 hours in saltwater. maybe you could try them? Shae 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 no, you need live rotifers for a week, but hard to get hold off. Niwa charge way to much. $200 plus for a culture. How much are the copperbands/six linewrasses steve?? does $26 sound about right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 HOLY HECK!, and i thought $15 for a microworms culture was expensive. Shae 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted January 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Livebearer, JFYI, even newly hatched brine shrimp are too big for them, so rotifers are the best alternative. From what I've read, they may be fed brine after around 10 days, although of course brine are not very nutritious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted January 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 HOLY HECK!, and i thought $15 for a microworms culture was expensive. Shae 250 Yes, the $200.00 is a bit hard to swallow, although I thought it may be OK for an initial culture if I could set up a system to maintain them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 I didnt think that clown fry were that little? also why not use microworms? they supply enough nutritian, the only down side is that they sink. Shae 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 What about freshwater rotifer cultures? You know a jar, a drop of egg juice (boiled egg through a muslin coth), left in the sun for a days until it populates? Also what about NSW? Or an established 'refugium' that loaded with pods and shrimps? There must be little critters in there for the big ones to grow into? Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Microworm are too big. that is why it is hard to breed marine fish as they fry are very small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted January 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Good idea Pies, may try some variation on that FW rotifer plan. At least it will be free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 What!, they cannot be smaller than danio fry! the clown eggs are huge compared! Shae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 false percula? hopeless really Alois How much are the copperbands/six linewrasses steve?? does $26 sound about right?? Unsure what you mean? to buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 I've got a question, I gave my son some brine shrimp eggs Five days ago they hatched the next day and we put them under the microscope, i noticed that there was another organism swimming around in the water??, does anyone know what it is?, is it food for the brine shrimp?, and if so can you use it as food for hatched fry (clown fish, etc...)? The reason i ask if it a food source for brine shrimp is that four days after hatching they're still alive and i can't find a trace of the other organism now. Regards Kermit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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