Phillz Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Well, I was thinking about getting a couple of Angels in the near future for my community tank. I was visiting a friend, and she said I could have hers....YIPEEEEEE for me LOL. I'm not too sure if the are males or females (how do you tell?) One is larger, mainly black with silver markings, with a dab of gold near it's head...the other is mainly silver with a few black markings. Both are very pretty fish Will have to try my hand at taking pics again LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillz Posted December 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 AS usual....terrible photos :lol: but here they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamweevil Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 not related to question but those are lovely fish lol if you think that photo bad mind are a tragedy i just get colour blurs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillz Posted December 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Thanks Bamweevil, glad somebody liked them :lol: Anyone able to answer my Q? how can you tell if they are males or females? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 I just googled "sexing angelfish" and got some rather interesting results . determining sex "angel fish" was much better . I Found this very interesting article on breeding Angelfish: Excerpt taken from: http://forum.aquariumhobbyist.com/angel ... s/188.html Sexing Don't be in a hurry. The only way to sex Angelfish, is by observation of the mating tubes, of the fish. The females tube, is about 1/8 inch long, somewhat longer than the males. The males tube, is shorter and more blunt shaped. The tubes are visible, only shortly before and during spawning. The tubes extend down from the vent area of each fish. White in color and as big around as a pencil lead in large Angelfish they can be easily seen during this time. Many people believe that Angelfish mate for life. I haven't found this to be accurate. With Angelfish, most mature male and female relationships develop when both fish are in the mood. I believe that the formal pairing, lasts only while the fish remain together. I have separated mated pairs and introduced a new mature male. He gladly steps in and takes over the duty, with full cooperation of the female. The first male is residing in the next tank, in full view of the female. This has always been my experience. Be aware that the cuddling up process, to the new mate will sometimes take a few weeks. I hope this helps, Cheers, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Phillz, if you go to the thread that Caryl had of her angels spawning in her tank. You can see a perfect way of sexing your angels. Look at the pic of her adult fish. They are perfectly placed to see what I am about to tell you. Side on, bang on for what I'm about. Draw an imaginary line from the base of the gill plate to the base of the Caudal peduncal. Note the difference of the angle where the ventral fins come from. The female is almost a 45degree and the male (closest) is noticably flatter. This system is almost infallible, all you have to do is have a group to compare one another with, or a little bit of experiance at the "angle" of the angel. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 dont breed them, you'll get horrible little mottled coloured angels like the parents, look for some pure colour ones, like straight silver or black. Shae 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillz Posted December 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Thanks for your help Matt & Alan, much appreciated dont breed them, you'll get horrible little mottled coloured angels like the parents, look for some pure colour ones, like straight silver or black. Shae 250 I never said that I was wanting to breed them, only wanting to know how to sex them....and personally I don't think they are a horrible, mottled colour....I think they are quite pretty, but hey thats just my opinion! (I'm not a fish Expert!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 no but the next step after seeing what sex they are, (if they happened to be male and female) would be to breed them. And i am not a fish expert either. Shae 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Well said Shae.. And i am not a fish expert either. I think you made a good point here Believe it or not Shae, those "horrible little mottled coloured angels" that you choose to call them, seem to have a better market than the standard silver and black you mention. The results would possibly be 25/75.. depending on the original parents of the pair shown... and may or may not produce some decent looking fish Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 its just like saying the horrible runty guppys you buy in pet stores outsell decent strains 10 to 1. Shae 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Plain silver or black does not indicate a more 'pure' strain than the marbled varieties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillz Posted December 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I guess it is what is available to the purchaser too. In Dargaville you are limited to 2 plant shop, which sell fish on the side There are some better Fishie shops in Whangarei, but have not seen any Angels (or guppies) that I would want to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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