bulldogod Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Just foud two of my loaches looking really sick, one looks bloated and other looks really red around face, the other 3 look ok so far but these two dont look good at all. any ideas, ive put them in another tank but dont know wot else to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetu Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Can you tell us more about their situation/their tank? What size is the tank? What kind of filtering system does it have? What is the temperature (have you checked it today?) What is the pH of the water? Have you done any other tests on the water? What have the loaches been eating? Have you noticed anything unusual about the water recently? Colour? Smell? Have you been using any medications, anything to adjust pH, get rid of algae etc? How bg are the loaches and how long have you had them? Have you introduced any new fish recently or made any other changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted September 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 What size is the tank? -4ft tank What kind of filtering system does it have? -fx5 What is the temperature (have you checked it today?) -25.8 What is the pH of the water? -6 Have you done any other tests on the water? - no other tests What have the loaches been eating? -shrimp brine,cichlid crumble, jbl Have you noticed anything unusual about the water recently? Colour? Smell? -all seems good, water change yesterday Have you been using any medications, anything to adjust pH, get rid of algae etc? -no How bg are the loaches and how long have you had them? -about 4 inches, had 5 of them for about 3,4 months Have you introduced any new fish recently or made any other changes?-new fish bout month ago They stikll not looking good, dont look like they will survive, only 2 out of five of them are sick ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetu Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Well from your replies I can't identify anything that might help you... in my experience once you've had clown loaches in a stable tank for several months they are pretty robust. It does seem odd that you have two loaches falling sick at the same time, but with different symptoms. What other fish are in your tank? Often other (more sensitive) fish will show symptoms before the loaches which might give you a clue about what's wrong. One more question: has any salt been added to the tank water at any stage? I have heard that loaches are very sensitive to salt, but I don't know what the symptoms would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc360 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 temp is too low, advise raising to 28 and checking that it is maintained at tht temperature throughout the night, your heater may be slack, is your ph stable at 6? this may also be to low? these factors may be compounding upon one another to cause your fish stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Temp seems a little cool for loaches, try raise it to 27+. Check ammonia nitrates and nitrites ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetu Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Raising the temp overnight is a good idea - also keep the tank as dim as you can to keep stress levels down, and make sure it is well covered (stressed fish often jump). I know loaches like dark places to hide and I often put a bit of pipe in a tank for a stressed loach to hide in, but in this case I think it's more important that you can monitor the fish carefully for any changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetu Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 How are the loaches today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted September 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Died , Heres a pic of red spot that I noticed?????? Also noticed some of loaches got a black shade to them all over so they looked darker? dont know if that was anything to them dying? Other 3 seem alright at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 what fish are they with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Any sharp gravel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted September 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 No sharp gravel, They are with jag,severums,oscar, silver dollar, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 id say jag is wacking them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 The red around the gills is a worry, have you tested the ammonia etc yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Sorry for you loss bulldogod Did you loose both sick fish or just the one? Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetu Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Oh! I'm so sorry to hear about your loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted October 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 ammonia nitrates semm bit high, have a chart thing here and says 5? Going to LFS tomorrow and see if any better test kits.If its high then what do you do to bring down?? Just did water change sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Do more water changes. If you have your own test kits, do testing till you get it back down. Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetu Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Yep, keep doing those water changes. Good idea to take a sample to the lfs for a comprehensive test. Let us know the results and we'll be glad to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpk Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yes take a sample to LFS you should not really have any detectable ammonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 How are the fishies doing? Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Not good, all died except one, did daily water changes but just kept losing them one by one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 So sorry bulldogod Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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