Simian Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I have just got my first Cichlid tank and it has what appears to be an electric yellow, except it has dark grey vertical bars...stress bars? and all around his chin is green grey (looks like a 5 oclock shadow ). I have scanned the forums and the net and I think that is is just the stress of moving that has him so off colour. Has anyone got any other suggestions? and how do I get him to calm down if it is? I asked the LFS if the mix I bought (as a going concern) is ok, please confirm. The "yellow Lab Convicts (breeding pair and Juvies) Jewel Cichlid and a green Severum and 3 Ancestrus oh and a really screwed up looking tetra that I cant catch.. if he lives all power to him Advice or comments please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 the yellow labs sound like male kenyi's green severums and convicts need a different Ph than jewels and yellow labs. the Ancistrus will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Could be a bad idor dodgy fish.. Or could just be one of the many poor quality electric yellow's imported and bred in nz.. Any chance of a pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 here's a link to the cichlid forum species register gallery, find the one closest to yours then check out all the different variants. A pic of yours would help us to. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/a ... allery.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 There is no variant of electric yellow with muddy bars and a dirty nose thats just poor colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 There is no variant of electric yellow with muddy bars and a dirty nose thats just poor colour. no but it may be something else, not an electric yellow, that he can recognise on the gallery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 here goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 his 5 oclock shadow is not so noticeable with the flash from the camera and niether are his bars but you get the idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Thats a yellow, its just poorly bred not the worst ive seen though, best not to breed from him at all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Oh and your stocking list is very different most people keep lake fish together but I have seen the fish you have listed together with no problems they all adjust to different ph's, most likely if you like the africans you will slowly sell off the others as a few people who have kept tanks like this have but only time will tell As long as you like it and everyone gets on I guess its ok.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 he doesn't look to bad to me, what you feed em? i had metriclima & labio get "dirty" when i started to feed them foods with spirulina in it. when i cut that food from their diet they got "cleaner" over the course of a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 It does have barring and darkness around the mouth, not the worst ive seen but he did say it doesn't show up as much with the flash, you can try a change in diet but from what ive found diet related discolouring is little blotches not defined bars down the side of the fish.. Guess he can only try and find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 check out this labidochromis below, might have a splash of this in it see the photo labelled "male" http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/s ... php?id=727 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Possible but id say unlikely as I haven't seen hongi in NZ (probably doesn't mean they aren't here) have seen plenty of yellow's around with barring and markings around the nose shape etc is perfect as far as I can tell its just people breeding from poor fish and not selecting nice fish to breed from but I haven't researched or looked into it at all.. You could spend all day going through profiles trying to speculate what could have bred with what but unless you actually bred the fish or saw the spawning you would never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted January 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Now ive seen the hongi Id hazard a guess that it may be a cross, There are a couple of spots on his anal fin. Meh I'm not likely to breed off him anyway. As for the odd mix of fish, the fish came with the tank so they must get along..well as well as they can any way. There is a PH overlap for all the species at 6.5-7 Ill try and get it nice and stable and see how they go, if not ill just have to get another tank . Thanks for the input guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 I wouldn't even start saying or even speculating things like a cross or anything like that.. Hongi and yellows are the same family so they will always bear similarities you could spend all day doing that and get nowhere I hope everyone in your tank gets on well, I have brought tanks with weird fish mixed that lived together also, I had a tank of africans that had 2 "snapper fish" in it which turned out to be shredded bolivian rams, and a dwarf gourami also shredded with no fins, yes they lived together for a year but they didn't have a very good life and once separated out and with more suitable tank mates they did alot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I have no doubt at all the fish in that pic is an Electric yellow Yeah Hongi and Yellow will interbreed very very easily but I cant see anyhing that would suggest that has happened I have seen alot worse Yellows then him The black throughout the body is generally brought up by inferior foods and sometimes a diet high in Spirulina Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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