Rozski Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Just considering the possibility, and have been doing some reading on them online. Tank is roughly 180 litres, and has been up and running for a few weeks now. Wouldn't be adding them for a while anyway, as already have: 7 danios 10 neons 2 leopard corys 1 bristlenose Fish I am planning on getting over the next few weeks are: 1 more cory (maybe 2 lol) 2 otos and eventually, a pair of blue rams. My tank pH is on the low side, and I assume soft as I use rainwater for changes Had originally wanted to add a small school of Hengels/Swift rasboras, but I think now I would rather have a pair of 'centre piece' type fish, rather than more schooling fish, as they aren't really schooling as such lol. The neons are flung far and wide through the tank (must be comfortable) and I think I'd prefer the look of a pair of angels, rather than more small fish scattered around the tank. Have been reading and realise they can eat neons when they get larger (but sometimes may not if they are raised with them from a small size, or I could exchange for a smaller pair if they got too large...) So before I mull over them for a month or so before I could get them, be nice to know anyones opinions on adding a pair of angels? Both compatibility wise, and tank stocking levels wise. Rather than look forward to it, then ask just before I go to get some and find out its not a good idea Thanks for any thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I have seen neons disappear when angels were in the tank. Small angels ok but large ones would be iffy My 2c worth Mr L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I use to have one angelfish that was fine with other fish until he grew quite large (which didn't take long). At this stage he nipped, chased and ate the neon's and generally annoyed anything smaller than himself. In the end his only tank companions were a convict, red tailed shark and a pleco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.qian Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 They are known to be terrestorial and aggresive in most cases especially when they are larger. So most suitable tank campanions are larger fish or at least of the same size. What about an albino rainbow shark? Still an semi-aggresive fish but doesn't seem to be as aggresive as angelfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_r Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I have had a large angel in with neons before, wasnt a very big tank, only about 350lx350wx700h. They all seemed to get along fine, never had any nipped fins or missing fish etc I now have the large angel in with plattys and corys and some young dwarf gouramis and they all get along fine, the tank is only 600x300x300. But that is only my experience, have heard of angels being very agressive towards smaller fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 i just broke down my community which had a pair of large angels with gaurami, neons, glowlights, serpae neons & a range of loaches etc. i never had any probs with the angels eating or attacking others when they weren't spawning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Yeah from what I have read, its a luck of the draw, as some people get really calm ones and many others get territorial ones... and the posts from you guys seem to show the same They are a type of cichlid, but seem to have seen them in a few community tanks hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 They are a type of cichlid, but seem to have seen them in a few community tanks hmmm... dont get confused with African cichlids. africans should never be mixed with community fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Oh yeah, I realise that, but they still fall under American cichlids don't they? Like the rams I forgot to ask, what are the differences between them? Like what types did you guys have? Will there be any difference in size and/or aggressiveness between getting koi vs black vs zebra... Haven't seen any differences mentioned in my browsing as of yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Oh yeah, I realise that, but they still fall under American cichlids don't they? Like the rams angels & discus etc are south american & electric yellows & blues etc are african cichlids & have thier own specific water parameters. I have only had peru altums & they were "chasey" of the gaurami at times but faught between themselves more than with others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me love fishy Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 If you're unsure about the angels with the neons, you could try a couple of gouramis, they would be a "bigger" fish in your tank and I've found with them that they only tend to chase other gouramis and leave other fish alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Apart from the dwarfs, all the other types get very big though don't they?? Have had dwarfs, but they kept dying off from one ailment or another. Still have a female dwarf, but she now has a problem too. Have heard of plenty of others who haven't had success with them What kind of gourami were you thinking of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me love fishy Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I was thinking of golden, blue or pearl gouramis. they are bigger than dwarfs but they are definitely no bigger than angels, so if you were thinking of angels then they would be a similar sized fish for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Just reading up on them now, the site I am on says the golden and blues get to 15cm and the pearls to 10. Not sure if I like the pearls, and 15cm seems quite big, especially if I have 2 (and also if they get aggressive). Up and down big (like angels) doesn't seem as big as nose to tail big for some reason :lol: Am still keen to give angels a go, as it seem some people have success. I think our LFS has a return/swap policy if fish get too big/aggressive and you can't sell them on, so have a backup. Its a while off before I have to decide anyway, hence asking early so I can think about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me love fishy Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 no prob, just thought I would give you another option for a similar sized fish. I have both angels and gouramis in my 4 foot tank, and I like both species of fish. all the best with your tank, post some pics once you get it fully stocked, would love to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Get angels, some angels eat neons, some dont. they only do it once they get BIG so just buy some small ones and buy the time they are full grown you'll have a fishroom and you will be able to put them where ever you want :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Get angels, some angels eat neons, some dont. they only do it once they get BIG so just buy some small ones and buy the time they are full grown you'll have a fishroom and you will be able to put them where ever you want :lol: yeah & who minds if a neon or two go missing. they are cheap enough & thats what would happen in the wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 :lol: at fishroom... Tho I'd much prefer a big display tank in each room of the house hehe Poor wee neons, no-one loves them Tho I really thought they schooled more :-? Gotta also think about whether I want koi angels, a black and/or white angels or the striped zebra type ones... too many choices! Now just to figure out why my powerhead filter is making an annoying rattly noise. Already pulled it apart with no change, grrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 tetras generally only school when scared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 yeah I figured that lol, just didn't realise they wouldn't school at all Maybe once I introduce a neon gobbling angel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 yeah I figured that lol, just didn't realise they wouldn't school at all Maybe once I introduce a neon gobbling angel... instant schooling tetras! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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