wasp Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I see in the other thread you got a pm from Layton, does that mean he is helping you? If so you will be in safe hands, but if he's not helping you let's know & me & others will answer the questions you asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 What's all this sorbitol stuff? Something I missed somewhere? BTW I've met David, he's one of the most straight up guys i've ever met, he wouldn't be giving someone a "low blow', or whatever it is, actually i don't even know what you guys are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 i didnt take that as a low blow - informative indeed and a very valid point! ensure you FULLY clean out all residue in any container you purchase. dont make the mistake i did and cause casualties in 2 tanks because i didnt spend 10 minutes rinsing it out :-? costly mistake. that sux , I was just going to use water and a pressure hose that should be ok? I see in the other thread you got a pm from Layton, does that mean he is helping you? Yes Layton's very kindly offered to house my livestock for me AND offered to help with the move . This week i'm going to write up a plan for the move and post it up here, if i've missed anything or if anyone has a better/different way of doing things then please post away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 What's all this sorbitol stuff? Something I missed somewhere? BTW I've met David, he's one of the most straight up guys i've ever met, he wouldn't be giving someone a "low blow', or whatever it is, actually i don't even know what you guys are talking about. Thanks Wasp Sorbitol is the Sugar alcohol residue in the barrels which caused the problems in Chim's and Shaneo's tanks last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 BTW I've met David, he's one of the most straight up guys i've ever met, he wouldn't be giving someone a "low blow', yeah he is not bad really, just pulling his leg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Right got my interim tank setup for when my rock and corals arrive on saturday. The tank is a 180L with a HOB skimmer, and small powerhead attached for circulation. I'm heating the water up to 25degrees tonight and will add the red sea salt tomorrow, i had a look at www.redseafish.com and it gives the caluculatios for mixing the salt up to a salinity of 1.021, however everyone seems to recommend 1.025 so i'm wondering if anyone knows how much salt it would take to add to a 180L tank to get this salinity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 1 kg per 30L so for 108L that would be 108/30= 3.6... so you would need 3.6kg of salt- Assuming that is 106 kg of water (Not a 106L tank witch would only have about 90L or so after you add rock..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 1 kg per 30L so for 108L that would be 108/30= 3.6... so you would need 3.6kg of do you mean 180/30 or 108/30? my tank is 180L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Calculate whatever amount of salt it is to make the water to 1.021, then add an extra 20% of salt. That will make the mix to around 1.025. If you get it wrong, no worries, just chuck in a bit more salt, or a bit more water, till it's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 great thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 yeah sorry i misread your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 just thought i'd put a pic up of the corals that came with the setup. Currently there in the holding tank until i get the tank cleaned so its not aquascaped at all The setup i bought was 5ft Juwel Aquarium with the marine lighting upgrade and spare arcadia T5 lights, Octopus Reef NW-150 Skimmer, Red sea prism hob skimmer, approx 50kg live rock, 30kg coral sand, test kits, various coral and fish food, 2 heaters, circulation pumps, green elegance coral, green brain coral, leather finger?, mushroom corals, feather duster, frogspawn coral, blue clam, yellow tang, 2 cleaner shrimps, 2 percula clowns, mandarin fish, lawnmower blenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 So this pic is not the tank it will end up in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 no just the holding tank at the mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 the corals look good carnt wait to see a full tank pic when done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candy Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Ya looking good. Lots to work with as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 yeah looking forward to setting it up, spent tonight doing some cleaning, the previous owneres had painted the back of the glass in blue paint which had also dripped on to the cabinet... (not sure why they just didn't stick a background on) so my partner was scraping the paint and algae off the glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 pretty much finished cleaning the tank tonight, but still a little work to do before getting it all up and running. Tonight i noticed the occurrence of red/brown algae, i know its fairly common in new setups but i just have a ocuple of questions regarding it. Ran a phosphate test it was around 0 - 5ppm 1. Is there anything i can do to remove it, would phosphate absorber help or do i just have to wait it out? can i physically remove the algae from the liverock when i transfer the rock and livestock to the new tank? 2. The hob skimmer i'm currently using has a media bag as an optional add-on would using phosphate remover in this bag help? At the moment i'm not sure what the media bag holds and i'm only assuming it might be phosphate absorber... I received a jar of this stuff and this is also in the media bag: Can anyone identify what this is if it isn't phosphate remover what might it be? 3. Will the red/brown algae cause any harm to the existing corals? 4. i have a mandarin fish that will be coming home at some point and i know they can be tricky to feed, does anywhere sell live food suitable for marine fish and if so what would be the best? 5. My kH is a bit high around the 13degree mark and my calcium quite low around the 320 mark, i have some kalkwasser here, should i add some to increase the calcium? 6. How many ppl use ro/di water, at the moment i'm only using chch tap water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Can anyone identify what this is if it isn't phosphate remover what might it be? Looks like carbon not po4 remover 1. Is there anything i can do to remove it, would phosphate absorber help get some rowaphos Ran a phosphate test it was around 0 - 5ppm What test kits are you using? that is too big a range. 4. i have a mandarin fish that will be coming home at some point and i know they can be tricky to feed, does anywhere sell live food suitable for marine fish and if so what would be the best? Dont worry just put him in the tank as you cant feed them. moment i'm only using chch tap water? You need a ro unit, i tested the chch water and it tested very high. The readings was higher than my rain water. 5. My kH is a bit high around the 13degree mark and my calcium quite low around the 320 mark, i have some kalkwasser here, should i add some to increase the calcium? Kaltwasser will not do much for calcium. get some calcium from you LFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ran a phosphate test it was around 0 - 5ppm What test kits are you using? that is too big a range. :oops: sorry thats a typo meant to say 0 - 0.5ppm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 if you don't have a fluidised reactor I would use the seachem phosphate remover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 You dont need to fludised rowaphos, just more effective as you get better contact ,either way it works, sorry thats a typo meant to say 0 - 0.5ppm The test kit you have is not sensitive enough, try a more sensitive po4 test kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 5. My kH is a bit high around the 13degree mark and my calcium quite low around the 320 mark, i have some kalkwasser here, should i add some to increase the calcium? You mean 13 dkh? If so that is quite high. Kalkawasser adds both dkh plus calcium, in balanced proportions, so adding kalkawasser will take dkh even higher. So best plan would be to add some calcium in the form of calcium chloride. Where to get calcium chloride? I know Layton has it so he could advise. Just to explain a bit more about the relationship between calcium, and carbonate alkalinity, the two react with each other to form calcium carbonate, which is what coral skeletons are made of. In seawater carbonate alkalinity is around 7.0 dkh. If it is a lot higher than that, and 13 dkh is a LOT higher, it will be constantly trying to precipitate out the calcium, making it very hard to raise the calcium. Best plan will be to gently raise calcium, while allowing the alkalinity to fall, which it will do naturally over a few weeks, a good level for your tank would be around 8-10 dkh, and raise calcium to around 400. As to the algae type growth, it won't harm the corals at this stage. Probably just forget about it until you move into the new tank. During the transfer scrub each rock clean with a scrubbing brush as you move them to the new tank. It will probably re grow, if so, you could look at a phosphate removing resin or some other means to clean it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 yes sorry i meant dKH. i popped down to organism today and bought some of the seachem reef advantage calcium and the phosguard so that should help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted August 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 well update today: Thursday night finished cleaning the tank and doing some small changes with the plumbing, moved it in ready to fill. We then noticed that the bulkhead had become unsiliconed from the glass . Resliconed it and left it to dry until Saturday. Water tested it yesterday and its all good . Half filled the tank yesterday and added the live rock, sand and corals and added the heater and circ pumps. Today we're aiming to finish aquascaping the rock, adding the additional seawater, adding the skimmer and get the sump running. Couple of questions i have, are there any good sites on aquascaping i'm struggling to get it looking good. Secondly once its all set up and running i'll be adding in the livestock that layton's looking after on tuesday night. There's a lawnmower blenny and i'm a little worried about him having enough to eat. Seeing as the tank is newly setup there isn't any algae on the glass, only algae i have is whatever was on the LR, should i try and supplement his diet with something and if so what do you suggest? nori? In the holding tank i had a brown algae outbreak, i was hoping to avoid this in this tank by adding phosguard in to the sump, would this be detrimental to the blenny in terms of having a supply of food? Will post pictures very soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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