becc4 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 I don't believe it. All my years of keeping fish and being not as vigilant about things have finally biten me in the butt. I have just lost 2xclown loaches and 3x yoyo loaches becasue the tank was not properly cycled. That'll teach me! I'm so angry with myself, they were bloody beautiful fish. Arrggghhhhh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 we all learn from our mistakes ! atleast you know where you went wrong sorry to hear bout your lose any how . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Sorry to hear that becc4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 i always cheat the cycle process in new tanks by taking water from my big 8ft tank and one of the filters for a week. cycling takes too long otherwise. sorry to hear about the fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becc4 Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Thanks everyone. Going into emergency mode cause the sev's, GT and BN are still swimming...need to get things right for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 wondering, what cuased it to be uncycled? Just want to learn so I don't do the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becc4 Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I moved house and had to set up tanks again. I have done exactely the same before with no ill effect, but this time I didn't put plants back into the tank because they were looking tatty. I guess that was enough tomake things toxic...unless it is something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 adding new filters or cleaning filter material in water that wasnt from the tank can wipe out the bacteria colony in the filter(s) also doing a 100% water change can lose most of the beneficial bacteria. if you do a 100% water change you have to let the water settle for atleast 24hours before adding fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me love fishy Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 i think the plants could have help as they use fish waste for fertiliser, sad to hear about your loss, do you have another tank that you can steal some filter media or gravel from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 i think the plants could have help as they use fish waste for fertiliser, sad to hear about your loss, do you have another tank that you can steal some filter media or gravel from? plants only use nitrites and convert that to nitrates, ammonia bacteria would of killed the fish, plants wouldnt have helped in the early stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingBird Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 GZ_Loach, in actual fact it's the bacteria in your filter and elsewhere that convert nitrites to nitrates (the "nitrifying bacteria") - plants only use nitrates, not nitrites. Not sure what you're talking about when you refer to "ammonia bacteria" either. But if you mean to say that nitrosifying bacteria (that which converts ammonia to nitrite) would have been detrimental to the fish & plants, you're entirely wrong. Nitrites, while still harmful to fish, are far less so than ammonia. But all this is moot in any case, because it would seem that neither nitrosifying nor nitrifying bacteria were present, hence the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becc4 Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I had kept some filter media intact, and it would have only be power off for 30 minutes. The rest of the gravel etc was given a light vac as it was emptied, but not washed in other water. The tank was set up for a couple of days prior to fish going back in, and they had been in there a week when they up and died. The remaining fish are looking better, I had to get another clownloach today to keep the remaining one happy (wouldn;t want it karking it cause it was lonely). I will definately take more care now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 i always cheat the cycle process in new tanks by taking water from my big 8ft tank and one of the filters for a week. cycling takes too long otherwise. Me too, I havent set up a tank from scratch in years, even moving from hamilton to whangarei to auckland! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 i always cheat the cycle process in new tanks by taking water from my big 8ft tank and one of the filters for a week. cycling takes too long otherwise. sorry to hear about the fish. im also very impatient with new stuff... gotta have it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Yeeeeikesss.. sorry to hear of your loss becca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 GZ_Loach, in actual fact it's the bacteria in your filter and elsewhere that convert nitrites to nitrates (the "nitrifying bacteria") - plants only use nitrates, not nitrites. Not sure what you're talking about when you refer to "ammonia bacteria" either. But if you mean to say that nitrosifying bacteria (that which converts ammonia to nitrite) would have been detrimental to the fish & plants, you're entirely wrong. Nitrites, while still harmful to fish, are far less so than ammonia. But all this is moot in any case, because it would seem that neither nitrosifying nor nitrifying bacteria were present, hence the problem. i dont know what i was thinking at the time :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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