chimera Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 it will most definately be high nutrients or inadequate lighting, more likely nutrients. i think my stag is too light brown, although it has almost purple coloured tips rather than blue. interestingly all my corals started getting lighter once i stopped dosing zeovit (which i had done for a year. i thought (and had hoped) they would get darker. i've started feeding heavily again. this happened after the 400W'ers went on. it's certainly not bleaching, but perhaps too much light (am considering lifting lights higher although lux levels seem about right at the surface) i think your tank is far too new to be concerned about colour at this stage. But the main source of excess nutrients will be the fish food. Nearly all newbies feed to much, it is so tempting to keep those little fishies fat. Try cutting back the fishfood and as long as the fish don't get skinny, hold it at the lower level i agree with this, but also disagree with dropping feeding. at the lower level - yeah perhaps but you're better off utilising better nutrient export methods, ie: bigger/better skimmer, more LR, rowaphos or the likes etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bychineva Posted September 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 i am looking at using zeovit products and see what happens,,,, as i have seen before and after pics...they are amazing...i was trying the red sea prizm skimmer which jetskier lent me i thought it would be just right for a 300l tank...but could do better i guess.....the 400w lights will come..tuesday...see wht happens then...but definetley looking for a better skimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 i am looking at using zeovit products and see what happens,,,, as i have seen before and after pics...they are amazing... i have a grotech reactor, some zeofood and zeobac you can buy off me if you want. you just need the media. theres about 50ml zeofood and 35ml zeobac left - but thats heaps and should last ages in your size tank. pm me for price if interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 i was trying the red sea prizm skimmer which jetskier lent me i thought it would be just right for a 300l tank...but could do better i guess definetley looking for a better skimmer DELTEC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 thanks Wasp...at the moment im feeding a product from Aquafarm,,,,Micro-Nutrients for Zooxanthellae....daily...i will stop this for a couple of days and see what happens.... http://www.aquapharmlabs.com/reefessentials.htm Try this. Do a water change, 25 or 30 percent, with clean NSW. While syphoning the old water out, do the most thorough sand vacuum and general clean that you can. Now, for 2 weeks, stop all dosing other than calcium and alkalinity, feed as little as possible that won't make the fish skinny, work that skimmer at max. If you can get vodka, put some in the tank, 1 ml per 100 litres daily. See what happens, Trust me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bychineva Posted September 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 vodka?,,,,im sceptical abt tht...but wht will the results be using vodka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Wasp the stag he is talking about is the common one we all have- in crackers tank it is choc brown with blue tips the one he has is from a zeo tank so tan colored, Its just returning to its "natural" color????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Oh it's from a zeovit tank, well it probably will darken when going into a different tank. Anyhow, vodka, here is an interesting read, you can skip the first 2 pages if you wish they are mostly people cracking jokes about vodka. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthrea ... ight=vodka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bychineva Posted September 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 thx i will dose 1ml per 100l ...daily....but for how long????thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Nice sheep Are they pets or food on the hoof for your tanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 thx i will dose 1ml per 100l ...daily....but for how long????thx' As long as you like, it only helps things. Just keep an eye out for whitening. Attheslightest notice pause for awhile. I run vodka permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 ' As long as you like, it only helps things. Just keep an eye out for whitening. Attheslightest notice pause for awhile. I run vodka permanently. whitening of what in particular? Cracker, please tell how much you dose for how many litres. some talk of possible effects to zoos and mushrooms; do you have any observations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 at the above rate, no issues with mushies and zoos. The whitening I am refering to is basal whitening of acros. (Just small areas). If you notice some, stop for awhile and it returns. Im not sure of it is directly related, but its not a prob provided you keep an eye out. It has happened to me a couple of times. The Corals it happened to are still growing like mad and have returned to normal. It may just be a temporary lack of nutrients when it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 It may just be a temporary lack of nutrients when it happens. That's what I think it is too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I doubt it's lack of nutrients. That is one thing which is practially impossible to achieve in a tank, no matter how hard you try, especially when talking about acro's. It's seems one of those things which people say when they're lost for another explanation. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 It's seems one of those things which people say when they're lost for another explanation. ;-) Layton. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Wasp, I'm just making an observation. Look at how these corals are built, how they get their food. For a coral to have something like that occur from lack of "nutrients" is practically impossible. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 here we go again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Wasp, I'm just making an observation. Look at how these corals are built, how they get their food. For a coral to have something like that occur from lack of "nutrients" is practically impossible. Layton Layton I have no intention of another stupid debate, specially when I already know the answer. I see you just got another thread locked (again). Just thought that if you are going to take the time and trouble to have a dig at me, it would have been better all around if you had instead spent the time & trouble giving helpful advice to Bychineva, like you will see others such as myself doing. Seems lately 90% of your time is spent arguing with all comers, on any subject, long as you can start or join an argument, you'll be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Despite what you think wasp, my postings don't revolve around you. All i've said is that I doubt that too low nutrients cause this problem. Why? Because of they way these animals are built, and the way they get their food, for them to show effects from too low nutrients is not going to be possible in a practical aquarium. Doesn't it help people to bring this up? I think so. So I don't see your problem with it? Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Despite what you think wasp, my postings don't revolve around you.Layton True enough, you argue with anyone, any subject, any time. It was the personal dig I found unnessecary, but not surprising. Get over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bychineva Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 wht do u think of the product aquapharm micro nutrient for zooxanthelle?...will tht effect the browing iof the stag WASP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Sorry, I don't know anything about it. Some of these products make misleading claims as you will find after a while. Some are good though. If it really does feed zooxanthellae, this may be a good thing, or a bad thing, you would need to regulate it carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bychineva Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 wht do u think of the product aquapharm micro nutrient for zooxanthelle?...will tht effect the browing iof the stag WASP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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