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Still for sale? can you post pictures?

Are you interested in breeding or just want as a display? Like Caryl said you will need to work out what types of Africans you are interested in keeping. Malawi's are probably easier than most Tangs starting out. Do a google search to see what's out there. Electric yellows & Demasoni would be a good start imo, easy to find, colourful, active, won't cross breed, go well together and won't break the bank... Also keep in mind Africans are very messy! So you will need adequate filtration.

Ok cheers mate will keep going with the water changes and salt then.

During the second water change so 24 hrs after first adding Epsom I did vacuum up a whole lot of white stringy poo out of the gravel.

I've got the last 4 in the freezer so will take them to a vet on sat to hopefully get some metro. Will be good to have some for the future anyway... Even if I end up losing all of this lot I'm not giving up on them and will give it another go.

Yeah upto 7 lost now. Doing daily 50% water changes and treating with prime/ adding Epsom also being careful to change with the same water temp. Haven't had the light on all week and still haven't fed since those first two times. I think it may be bloat as the ones that have died look swollen around the belly but hard to tell on such small fish... It's really frustrating cause they all look fine, really lively and trying to eat anything in the gravel when I'm doing water changes with the gravel vaccum then all of a sudden another one goes. I'm soaking some food in a epsom salt solution in the fridge and may feed that tomorrow night to get it right in their guts if things don't improve. I'm also worried about going too long without feeding as it may stunt their growth or result in more losses.

They were being fed Omega One veggie micro and said he hadn't lost any so far which is why I decided to feed the same. Ok thanks I'll go get some jbl novorift today.

Ira, I actually said a few times I'm not sure it is bloat. Just trying to prepare for the worst. My reason for concern is that it can't be the food because two went before I fed anything. This means they were stressed somehow, possibly with the pH difference or something else during the move. Before I got these fish I researched them a lot and many people say stress is a major factor that can cause bloat and seems like if a few die they all seem to go if you don't do anything about it. Three have died so I would assume the remaining 18 have been put through the same stresses. Hopefully I've just induced a bit of natural selection and the others survive. They looked ok this morning. Added more hiding places, turned lights off, did a water change and dosed with Epsom salt.

Ok so my pH is 7.8-8 and the old tank was 7.2-7.8. Enough of a difference to cause pH shock? Contacted 5 vets today and only one even considered writing me a prescription for metro but said I would have to bring the fish in for him to inspect. Did 50% water change with warm water this afternoon and added 1 tbsp of Epsom salt. Not really sure what else I can do now. No more dead, one was sitting on the bottom but once I tapped the glass he took off and looked fine... Hard to tell with juvies I guess. Should I dose with pimafix??

Ahh that is so frustrating and kinda leaves me screwed... can't take the fish in cause they will likely die if already bloated and can't wait for them to show obvious signs of bloat cause that last one didn't last very long at all after it started swimming funny. Good point I'll check what his PH was. Obviously not an issue with the food and don't think temp would be an issue cause they were in a small chilly bin with an air stone for a bit over an hour and slowly acclimatised to the new tank. Not sure about his tank, will contact him now. Thanks for the help everyone!

Also does anyone know where to get a prescription for Metro on the North Shore? Or a vet clinic that could send it out to me and not request to see the fish in person :facepalm:

So I bought 21 Tropheus Duboisi fry at 1.5cm on Saturday morning and have lost 3 already. I'm sure I did everything right and was very careful, so I'm not sure it's bloat. All the water parameters are fine with temp at 26-27 and I spent an hour acclimatising them to the new tank. Haven't seen any white faeces or bloated stomachs but the last one to go was swimming in circles and spending a lot of time on the bottom on its side. The first one died within 5 hours of being in the new tank so I figured it was just stress with the move because they're so small. Sunday morning another one went and last night the third one was on its side and completely buggered so got the flush. It's definitely not the food because I'm feeding the same food the guy I bought them off was and in very small amounts (Omega One veggie micro). They hadn't been fed at all until Sunday morning, fed again this morning - but will stop now. The rest of them all look fine now and didn't notice any not eating this morning... So yeah not sure it is bloat but I'm going to panic anyway haha. Have called three vet clinics and two wouldn't write a prescription for Metronidazole, Lynfields are getting back to me. Planning to do a 50% water change tonight, dose epsom salt and hopefully Metro if I can get my hands on some. They're in a 40L Hailea, does anyone have any idea of dosage/ best procedure to follow with fry? Any adverse affects if I treat and they don't actually have bloat? Should I move the filter media to my frontosa tank before I dose to save the bacteria? Or will this just cause more issues when I eventually put it back after treatment? Should I crank the temp up to 28? I know this has come up a few times already and I have read those threads but couldn't find any info on fry with bloat. Also a google search provides many different opinions and none specific to my situation.. I would really appreciate any advice! from people who have been in this situation or keep tropheus only please TIA, Sam

- Does your water contain chlorine? YES - Do you use a dechlorinator? Only for large water changes 50% + or after cleaning a filter - Do you know where your water comes from, if so do you know the average levels (eg residual chlorine) in your water supply? NO - How old is your tank? Range from 6 months to 5 years - Does your use of dechlorinator change based on the "maturity" of the tank? NO

I have tried it with duboisi and would not recommend it...

The most success I've had with Demasoni is when stocking 25. I would say start with atleast 20 cause good chance you will lose some.