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I feel that it is ultimately the retailers responsibly and if there is any doubt over an ID that could mislead or deceive the customer then the customer should be made aware, just like when suspected Rio Ucayali could not be 100% identified and they were sold as "spotted bristlenose" instead.
well thats a lovely thought kiwi only problem is if you bred them and wanted to sell them to a shop as a shop owner i wouldnt buy any as i could not gaurantee what their correct name was so you would miss out as would many other potential customers as if the responsibility fell on the shops they simply wouldnt stock any if there were doubts of its origin or proper name the hobby would lose out in the end because shops would put the omnus back on importers and importers would stop buying fish aswell you cant exactly fly to asia or germany every week to eyeball yr stock before you buy and trying to return them is near impossible
question how do you think a retailer would go selling a plec thats "a possible Rio Ucayali , but could be a spotted bristlenose but helll really we dont know what it is on the label " cost is somewhere between 19.95 and 49.95 depending on what you think ?>
really ???
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female at that size
lol at josh thats zero for two bud :digH:
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hate to burst yr bubble but thats a female in the cave :facepalm:
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how big is it pls .too hard to tell from that angle
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OK,,,,, The level of aggression will have been minimal in such adolescent fish unless under fed which clearly is not the case. I doubt oxygen depletion unless the outlets to the canisters where quite low or ammonia or nitrite where present, even then this should have been noticed in the plec's if not all of your fish. I feed prawn on a regular basis to my herbivorous plec's never have i a had a problem and never have i heard of such an easily digested protein being an issue. Seems weird even though i do feel this is either water quality or a dietary issue that the l260 being heavily carnivorous is effected l200 omnivorous easily handling this type of protein, and l177 that i personally feed quite alot of protein too in the form of both prawn and sinking carnivore.
Temperature will be fine between 26-32 so i don't understand the accusation of this being high in regard to these plec's. I would like to know the water parameters before passing any judgment. Are there any other fish in the tank?.
Sorry: Missed the update
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I realise that was a post filled with assumptions. In short I think death due to lack of oxygen influenced by ammonia levels is a viable assumption. A blow that could of been softened with increased water changes and higher oxygen levels. When running a heavily stocked tank (If you are) water changes are VERY important. As for the L260, it could easily be an infection of some sort. How long had your filters been running for?Honestly, It may be a number of factors that have there fingers in the pie (Overstocking, etc etc.). I'm only making assumptions according to the outcome, not the water conditions. For far more accurate and informed assumptions to be made, there needs to be a bit more information provided. You described the death of the L177 and L200 in the same way that you described your L270. So i'm not too sure. Either way, there is information missing and untill we figure out what's going wrong I can only speculate. Just to clarify, is the tank at your house, or elsewhere?
Sorry to hear about the deaths again, It's not easy losing fish.
Please keep us updated with the L260. Thanks
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yr getting better at this rabbit 8)
Its a girl. Thin Pectoral rays, round even shaped head, wide full breast, complete lack of odontodes. -
well havent been here for a while
37 all running :tears:
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Incorrect. I work at Animates because probably the most reputatable fish shop in the country couldnt pay me remotely close to what I was requesting.
But that is a separate argument.
or maybe they just dont rate you very highly ?
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always thought you were a dixie scrubber p44
I don't get paid minimum wage.The last job that paid me minimum wage was 6 years ago, when I was in 6th form and worked in a butchery.
$6.80 per hour felt great.
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Keep in mind, Animates is a pet shop, not a veterinary hospital. You wouldn't expect Animates to give advice about your dog with a tumour, would you? The other thing is that fish are notoriously difficult, if not impossible to properly diagnose. I would guess that upwards of 99% of all fish in this country are just treated based on subjective findings rather than any diagnostic tests that can confirm what disease they have. Yes, it is great that some people have lots of experience and can use anecdotal evidence to support reasonable treatment regimes, but give those poor pet shops a break. All they have in shop are a collection of odd chemicals and potions that are sold as miracle cures and there is no guarantee they will even come close to addressing the real problem.
wow its no wonder i hardly post anymore
sorry jennifer but can you pls clarify because if i "owned a dog " i would take it to a place like animates for advise and if it had a tumour i "would expect"them to tell me to go to the nearest veterinary hospital see i wouldnt know it had a tumour because im NOT a veterinarian
And fish are notoriously difficult if not impossible to properly diagnose you say yet there are hundreds of books and even threads on here of diseases and what to look for and how to treat / there are hundreds of success stories of treated fish and survival rates probably from those silly few stores who pay for their staff to get educated on such things or show them what to ask and look for when diagnosing and pobably those silly few stores who have a few comprehensive books on such things under their counter so they can discuss and try to clarify with their customers what the symptoms are like or evn those same silly stores that invite th customer to bring in the fish for a more thorough investigation
i do agree that most likely 99% of diagnosis is abit of guesswork or should i say process of elimination because it does seem a bit hard to find a vet that will x-ray or catscan my fish nowdays an trying to get them to take blood pls,dont get me started, and since my fish hae taken a lifelong vow of silence it seems askingthem whats thematter dosent have the same effect
so it is good common sense you say for petshops to stuff their shelves with chemicals they know little about and just hand them out like lollies whenever i come in with a problem
All they have in shop are a collection of odd chemicals and potions that are sold as miracle cures and there is no guarantee they will even come close to addressing the real problem.is that really yr expected result from petshops ??
better yet they should have a sign "all care no resposiblilty taken " just like my mechanic does and when the preverbale hits the wall lets all hail jennifer who says " lets give these petshops a break" because they need to earn a living too and if you dont buy more fish from them from their mistakes then how are they to survive
no thanks mrs FNZAS executive with comments like those its no wonder this hobby is sinking faster than Chris Carter at a mardi gra
not only are you damaging the hobby you have jst painted every shop with the same brush and i know that there are two really good hard working specialised fishshops out here that do not need yr kind of comments
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ok so im just locked out then
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is chat dead tonight?
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you are def "one of the others " p44
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good work tsarmina it s nice when you get a feeling of being on a roll keep doing what yr doing well
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good stuff give me a call when yr set and ill see what i can help you out with
Thx Mr Pleco,
i am setting my 2.4 mtr tank to be a Pleco tank, i will have some more from you soon. i want a lot of them in there. -
awesome work david and really nice photos
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now yr just showing off 8)
well at least the eggs look golden its a good start
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have you got both the golds and the browns?
yes adodge
did you cross them with gbas? or did gold ones come in?no these are recessive gene albino red eye longfins seems one of the female longfin bristlenose carries the receessive gene and hence when they bred i got 25% golden but only one female has the gene as another female produced all brown longfin
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the longfins
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now thats funny
More common common names please!
in The Off Topic Fishroom
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+1 suphew couldnt have summed it up better myself i applaude you
i wish some ppl spent as much time changing water and caring for their fish as they spend on here finding faults with everybody else way of doing things and that they know best
i am not trying to point the finger but i would love to see some of these ppl that post these comments actually have the balls to run a petshop deal with all these issues raised and correct them and then tell me it aint that big a problem or it dosent incur any cost or time they would probably have perfectly named dead fish because they spent so much time identifying them they didnt have enough time to actually feed them or look after them '